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I couldn’t stop eating… they were too tasty… and there is so many left to eat… my stomach is all hate but my taste buddies are all love. Wat to do?

lol. by every universal ideal and value that is common throughout humanity my country is all win. Australia is consistently lauded by the international community for our freedoms, social inclusiveness, cohesion, and peacefulness. Our quality of life is second only to Sweden as determined by UNESCO. We are a happy, capable, proud, free people that left barbarism and ignorance and instead embraced reason and logic tempered by an understanding of our common humanity.
 

and syria has war and islam… tell me again how your society is better than mine?

By the way pimp, you make the argument often about shariah vs western world crime rates. Sorry but there is no comparison to make since the data is simply not there in shariah countries. There is simply no mechanism within shariah countries that records crime the way we do in western countries, especially violent crime. Rape and murder is nearly always dealt with on a local community level in these countries to the detriment of social justice. Shit gets commited by family members, sorted out by family members, with the blessing and supervision of religious leaders. Fuck your justice.

Making the argument about US foreign policy and war mongering is also quite specious. It’s like saying cops are more likely to kill someone than the ordinary citizen, hence cops are evil. The entire concept behind an army is to maintain a monopoly on violence to ensure no one else does violence. Muslim countries do not go to war with each other as much as they would simply because the US is there to come down and kick anyone’s ass. Without US foreign policy dominating the Mideast, there would be a shit fight like no other. Personally I wish the US would pull out and let you all kill eachother.

What it really comes down to is how hypocritical you are. You live in the US. If muslims countries are so great, why don’t you go back to your muslim Utopia… where was that again?

....oh yeah…syria…. hows that place going again??

u lose man. Give it up the argument and your religion. Though I know you never will, I understand why you can't. My parents are hard core Christian. Through them I’ve realised when a person has advanced far enough along in their life with a religion that it has become so entwined within your being that to turn away from it would make a lie of so much of your life. Turning away from Islam would be sort of destruction of self for you… not so your kids though. Whatever you do, just don’t bring them up as muslims. Please. They do not deserve it. You will damage them more than you will ever be able to grasp.

I don't consider Muslim:
• Any militant group that employs Suicide Bombing Techniques. It doesn't matter the case. You don't commit suicide whatsoever. You want to fight somebody. Fine! fight till someone kills you and go down like a man.  Don't kill yourself like a wuss or blow your legs off like a jackass. hehe 

• Any group that attacks unarmed civilians (and yes. That includes Israeli's) 
• Any group that executes disarmed captured combatants (POW's?) If he's not fighting you anymore. Keep him jailed. Don't kill him with his hands tied behind his back. Thats cowardly
 

That’s a pretty idealised view of war you’ve got going there. War is not honourable, nor is it good. It is a fucked up business where each side tries to kill as many of the other side as possible. There is no “going down like a man”. You’re one fucked up prick if you believe that dying in war is honourable. Living in peace is honourable. Fighting in war can be done for honourable reasons. Dying is just plain shit. Martyrs can suck my dick.
 

• Any group that would kill another Muslim (of any sect) especially on Meccan Soil and even worse, Pilgrims performing Hajj Pilgrimage. 
 

So when, for example, the Syrian civil war is over, and the Sunnis have finished killing the Alawites, they’ll turn on the Shiites because the alawites were allied to them via Iran. The protection of the kurds, Christians, and smaller muslim sects that existed under the alawites who drew support from them will cause a whiplash where the sunnis will start killing off the other other sects too. Oh and those couple of million Iraqi Christians that are chilling in Syria? They’ll be history too.
 

Long story short, muslims kill other muslims like it’s going out of fashion.
 

• Any group the takes the Quran and Hadith out of context to manipulate the ignorant masses to fit their own agenda
Most of the time there is no reason to take the Koran out of context. Leaving it in context still provides plenty of material to convince people to kill.

• Shiite's, Nation of Islam (Farrakhan etc.), 5%'ers, Al-Qaeda, Taliban etc.
 

So Shiites are not muslim anymore? So 10-15% of people that claim to be muslim, follow the teachinigs of the Koran, are suddenly not muslim? And im guessing your 5% also means that pretty much anyone who isn’t Sunni isn’t muslim. So I guess if I refer to your 4^th point about muslims killing other muslims, that pretty much rubber stamps all sectarian violence in the muslim world.

 
• Any person that spots mmateri's missing 110lbs Salmon and doesn't report it to the authorities Is a bad Muslim and is going to hell IMO. I mean c'mon! you see how bitter he's become!?!? poor guy. .  .

Who I personally think are Mad Fucking up (Sinning that needs a proper whooping) and committing some very damaging acts are:

• Any group that would be audacious enough to take advantage of the Freedom of Speech, allowed them in Foreign nations that are not Islamic Countries, and throw around Death Threats and War Talk. If you can't grow the balls to say it where it matters (like in my own country of Syria) don't think you saying it here means you've grown a pair. Go home and fix the fuck ups you left behind before trying to fix someone else's bullshit. (Thats also why Muslims Missionaries only visit other Muslims. Improvement begins on the inside first.)
• Anybody that takes advantage of a country's social benefits, plays the system and breaks the laws thinking "it's ok. Because they're Infidel's" WRONG, DOUCHEBAG! I don't care if he's a fucking Satanist. You don't violate a persons rights. Even if it is just a government entity instead of a person.
• Anybody that throws around Death Threats to anybody regardless of their action towards them.  [I would partially understand if their Honor was physically assaulted (ie. Sister, Mother, Daughter, Wife etc) or sexually harassed directly. But it still doesn't call for a Death Threat]  
• Come over to westernized countries, and instead of trying to fit in within the limits allowed from Islam, try force their beliefs onto others. 

Finally something I can agree with. Yes. Please keep your fucked up muslim shit fights contained to the ‘stans.

Who >I< might kill:

15 years from now there's going to be a dumbshit that thinks he's going to court my daughter. . . . . If me ramming a shotgun into his mouth and telling him, "If I see you here again. You've never leaving this family", doesn't phase him, leaves with his pants still dry and comes back for a second visit then. . . . disaster averted. >:P

Why does it appear I'm always defending them? 
•There's 1.2 Billion people that hold the title "Muslim"
• Everytime you bigots talk about the actions of 1 extremist. Your wording puts another 100,000 of us under the same light. 
• Western Society has more vices in it then Eastern Society. Shariah is too harsh? I know it is. But you can't deny that it works for them. Crime is virtually non-existent in Shariah countries.
 

Bullshit. Crime is not reported. Crime is conducted by the government and religious institutions on people everyday. You cannot say “oh treating women like slaves isn’t considered a crime in this country so crime is low”. We have statistics on crime in western countries conducted by muslims and it is SKY FUCKING HIGH. In Sweden majority of rape is done by muslim men on Swedish women while contributing less than 10% of the population. Look at what a ghetto malmo has turned into, or Marseilles in France.

Heck even in Non-Shariah countries crime is low. But Western prisons are full and when prisoners are freed they revert back to committing crimes. So you tell me. Which method appears to work better at solving the problem? 

Our prisons are fuill because we send our crims to jail. In muslim countries you either behead them or call them mullah.
 

• There are a total of 51 Muslim countries. But based on the treatment of women in 4 of those countries. The other 47 are getting the bad rep as well.
 

Some are worse than others. Agreed.
 

•You all say our women are oppressed. But refuse to take a look at your own culture and how women have became objects. Things to be used for Advertisements. Objectification of your female populace. Creating a fake image that is impossible for the majority of them achieve giving the feel of insufficiency.
 

That’s the beauty of freedom. Women can chose what they want to be. Most chose to accept that a part of them is their sexual self. We may objectify women in the western world, but we stop short of forcing them to become an object. Muslims treat women like commodities to be bartered and traded at will. Nothing you said about how you’d view a young suitor takes into account what your daughter would feel about it. She sits to the side while you and the suitor work it out. Men making the decisions about the girls future? Well done.
 

 • The Wests continuous meddling in Foreign affairs is what brought about all the Anti-American Sentiments. It didn't just come from nowhere. Nobody just wakes up one day and says. "Yes! I can feel it in the air.Today I want to chant death to America and then have a Falafel" 
 

Everyone meddles in everyones affairs. Some just have more reach than others. America is a convenient enemy to decry and rally control to the religious and military elite.

• Most of the Terrorists were empowered by the CIA but you guys conveniently forget that and go on placing a 100% of the blame on the east. So when we get lumped with the extremists YOU created. . . .
 

What? We created Islamic fundamentalism? Bwahahahaha. Go fuck yourself and take ownership for the extremism that Islam allows to flourish.
 

 • The US has supported, installed dictators and armed rebels that equate to more then half the number of countries there are in the world. But when they turn against US interest's they don't say. "Look at the monster we created" which is the truth. no! They call them enemies of Freedom and democracy. So again. . . when one of them fucks up guess who gets lumped in with the bunch. 
 

Y’know. A kid just like you will be saying the exact same thing in 20 years when the Libyan government is fostering terrorists to blow up targets in Europe. He’ll say, look at what you did. You armed these guys. They’ve turned bad on you now. You forget that these were freedom fighters fighting the Soviets. The USSR killed 60million people within their empire through forced starvation, deportations, and old fashioned execution. The soviet empire was a nuclear armed threat to the world. People got up each day and thought that Armageddon was going to strike. Now you are trying to blame the USA for trying to stop that threat by any means? Learn to history boy.
 

• The US has shown unconditional support for Israel disregarding all it's human rights violations. It has vetoed any measure in the UN to give Palestine a chance to improve itself. Making a shitty situation even shittier. 
 

Israel is surrounded by countries that want it wiped off the map. Some of those are getting nuclear weapons. They weren’t always such dicks, but after a few wars, constant international condemnation and a pretty fucked up history. The UN’s biggest voting bloc is the Islamic Cooperation Organisation, something like 60% of all UN censures have been issued to Israel. There are much worst violators in the world that need looking at. Stop obsessing over Israel.

Me being argumentative aside, there were some solid points. It’s not often that Muslims give even the littlest of ground, so props for recognising that your religion is not all happy fun time.