otester says i should run tan like a business, though that's a pretty empty statement if you think about it. should i see your info? or charge you to view things? make it so only people who pay can comment? i think not. maybe he means i should have a fridge with drinks in it, so that when you get thirsty i can sell you a can of coke, or an icecream, though logistically it could be a problem...
anyway, enough of giving otester shit (though it is fun, it's ultimately unfullfilling, like laughing at retards...)
my question is, we have 6 months, how can tan make money, just enough so that it can carry on living, perhaps have some left over for advertising and competitons. i have no idea, the problem starts with the fact that tan offers nothing new, it barley even has original content, most of it is just posting links to other places, and the other problem is the lack of new blood, new people join, but they leave pretty soon. so how can these problems be resolved without changing the core of tan? and how can it make money?
selling things (tshirts etc) isnt really an option, because even if people bought a tshirt (big if btw) they'd only buy 1, and with the none expanding userbase, that's not a good source of revenue...
so i'm making this lottery thing (when i get a chance, irl is hectic atm and im currently in the progress of updating my devbox so to the latest ubuntu lts (
new perl version amongst many other updates) so i can be ready to do it on the live server)
it works like this, donate 3gbp and each month one of the donatees for that month is picked at random and given 25% of the money donated, it was mmateri's idea. i like it coz it does 2 things, 1 it helps tan, and it's cheap, 2 you might win. so i know i'll be putting in 3gbp each month, and hope others do too. if not at least i'll win some of my money back... lol
so yeah, any other money making ideas are welcome, even if it's a plan to sell icecream, it's worth a shot. and remember sw, back when they had that content stream on the frontpage of torrentspy, the one that made sw what it was, that cost $1000/month, so remember that before thinking hosting costs a lot...
i dunno, maybe nothing will happen and the sun will set on tan, and we'll all move to tuonis phpbb forum, or maybe tan will live and grow stronger, who knows. all i know is that ima keep making tan, i have good plans, as soon as i can be arsed doing this lotto thing there's mucho backend changes coming up, perhaps even a redesign, but that costs money for a good one...
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Youtube and other video services make small dough, but someone would have to make videos just for tan to make money. Or invest time in designing videos
Maybe take a look at a different ad partnership with another advertiser, I've noticed a few times on some unprotected computers that TAN would get the very rare interstitial advertisement, which could scare some users from coming back if they don't know how to protect against ads. The more people active at any time and more friendlier advertising could lead to a higher click %
Youtube and other video services make small dough, but someone would have to make videos just for tan to make money. Or invest time in designing videos
Maybe take a look at a different ad partnership with another advertiser, I've noticed a few times on some unprotected computers that TAN would get the very rare interstitial advertisement, which could scare some users from coming back if they don't know how to protect against ads. The more people active at any time and more friendlier advertising could lead to a higher click %
£19.99 will get you ~£8 profit.
£19.99 will get you ~£8 profit.
i like it coz it does 2 things, 1 it helps tan, and it's cheap, 2 you might win.
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you know that's actually three things don't ya numbnuts?!
i like it coz it does 2 things, 1 it helps tan, and it's cheap, 2 you might win.
you know that's actually three things don't ya numbnuts?!
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It used too...
It used too...
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I'm not saying link it to your account like a linkedin profile or ebaumsworld. I'm just saying make the basic things available so content CAN be shared on facebook. I've manually linked TANs stuff on facebook before and it's a bitch making it look professional like a yahoo link or sommit[quote user=otester] It doesn't cost you anything to sell t-shirts, just set up an account with one of those sites that does it, upload the TAN logo, set the cost of the t-shirt (base + your profit margin).
£19.99 will get you ~£8 profit.
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He's already done that.
I'm not saying link it to your account like a linkedin profile or ebaumsworld. I'm just saying make the basic things available so content CAN be shared on facebook. I've manually linked TANs stuff on facebook before and it's a bitch making it look professional like a yahoo link or sommit
£19.99 will get you ~£8 profit.
He's already done that.
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not that i know of, but then again, who on tan wants other tanners on their facebook? saying that im on a few peoples, like jeuxs, and you don't wanna know what kinda filthy things i do to her holiday snaps.
[quote user=rokkus] [quote user=n0body] i like it coz it does 2 things, 1 it helps tan, and it's cheap, 2 you might win.[/quote]
you know that's actually three things don't ya numbnuts?!
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[quote user=proofinlife] [quote user=jeuxstine]Not a bad idea proofie except there are those of us whose posting is done away from the critical eyes of irl family and friends... I can't mix TAN with blue room life... Far too embarrassing; everyone would know I'm a bitchy pervert ;( the pseudo-lottery idea isn't bad but I don't really know if it'll work... I don't need any kind of bribery to donate, though... Hey big are you still running ads on other sites?[/quote]
I'm not saying link it to your account like a linkedin profile or ebaumsworld. I'm just saying make the basic things available so content CAN be shared on facebook. I've manually linked TANs stuff on facebook before and it's a bitch making it look professional like a yahoo link or sommit
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yeah a share this button or something, it's on the list, somwhere. but when i share things on fb on tan i think it looks ok, i dunno what you mean. i did that thing for the image, i dunno who said it or w/e, but that works.
as for twitter, tan has a twitter page full of the latest things promoted on tan (see twitter icon top right), however it doesn't do #hashtags coz i never thought of a way of making it do them cleverly. i guess that should be on the list as well.
not that i know of, but then again, who on tan wants other tanners on their facebook? saying that im on a few peoples, like jeuxs, and you don't wanna know what kinda filthy things i do to her holiday snaps.
you know that's actually three things don't ya numbnuts?!
I'm not saying link it to your account like a linkedin profile or ebaumsworld. I'm just saying make the basic things available so content CAN be shared on facebook. I've manually linked TANs stuff on facebook before and it's a bitch making it look professional like a yahoo link or sommit
yeah a share this button or something, it's on the list, somwhere. but when i share things on fb on tan i think it looks ok, i dunno what you mean. i did that thing for the image, i dunno who said it or w/e, but that works.
as for twitter, tan has a twitter page full of the latest things promoted on tan (see twitter icon top right), however it doesn't do #hashtags coz i never thought of a way of making it do them cleverly. i guess that should be on the list as well.
£19.99 will get you ~£8 profit.
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it's not a long term profit solution though, i mean how many tshirts are you gonna buy? 0 i reckon, but even if it was 1, it'd only be 1, and like maybe 5 people might buy 1. not that they will, since there was tshirts once, for like 2 years, and none sold... also the tan logo looks like it was made by a drunk colourblind retard. which is was...
£19.99 will get you ~£8 profit.
it's not a long term profit solution though, i mean how many tshirts are you gonna buy? 0 i reckon, but even if it was 1, it'd only be 1, and like maybe 5 people might buy 1. not that they will, since there was tshirts once, for like 2 years, and none sold... also the tan logo looks like it was made by a drunk colourblind retard. which is was...
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good plan, just needs $ first though... :(
good plan, just needs $ first though...
good plan, just needs $ first though... :(
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Make it so you pay to enter the competition? Or would that put people off? They might think it's a scam I suppose.
good plan, just needs $ first though...
Make it so you pay to enter the competition? Or would that put people off? They might think it's a scam I suppose.
you read it here first.
you read it here first.
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What about using the articles tags, the first 2/3 or something.
What about using the articles tags, the first 2/3 or something.
"7. TAN will set cookies on your computer and will record tracking data."
An update of the rules in the faq will also be appreciated.
"7. TAN will set cookies on your computer and will record tracking data."
An update of the rules in the faq will also be appreciated.
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tom brady knows.
tom brady knows.
He's already done that.
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he should have a link on FAQ, support tan wear tan shirt. mmateri has the buy t shirt page bookmarked i think. Just a pic of the tee and a link to buy.
He's already done that.
he should have a link on FAQ, support tan wear tan shirt. mmateri has the buy t shirt page bookmarked i think. Just a pic of the tee and a link to buy.
just watch out for tuoni whoring himself out for computer hardware.
just watch out for tuoni whoring himself out for computer hardware.
just watch out for tuoni whoring himself out for computer hardware.
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ill trade you.....3 corn husks for a weekend with your mother
just watch out for tuoni whoring himself out for computer hardware.
ill trade you.....3 corn husks for a weekend with your mother
Lotto seems good but perhaps lower the winnings so that more is left for the site and future investments. I'd happily put £3 in a month anyway and get fuck all back . Getting a tenner back wouldn't be so bad. Ten people do this that's £30, £20 goes to TAN and £10 to me. It's not enough to cover the site but it's something.
Also, TAN comments pages are usually long. Cant't you dynamically set the left hand grey space to spam ads as long as the comments are? All I see on the left hand side after the latest comments is fuckloads of wasted grey space.
TL;DR?
Lotto, good but pay out less
Redesign? Not cost money, we'll do it for free
Spam maor ads.
Lotto seems good but perhaps lower the winnings so that more is left for the site and future investments. I'd happily put £3 in a month anyway and get fuck all back . Getting a tenner back wouldn't be so bad. Ten people do this that's £30, £20 goes to TAN and £10 to me. It's not enough to cover the site but it's something.
Also, TAN comments pages are usually long. Cant't you dynamically set the left hand grey space to spam ads as long as the comments are? All I see on the left hand side after the latest comments is fuckloads of wasted grey space.
TL;DR?
Lotto, good but pay out less
Redesign? Not cost money, we'll do it for free
Spam maor ads.
ill trade you.....3 corn husks for a weekend with your mother
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No sex in the barter room!
ill trade you.....3 corn husks for a weekend with your mother
No sex in the barter room!
No sex in the barter room!
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who said anything about sex.....its just spending time with her, and if something else happens, well then that had nothing to do with it...............
No sex in the barter room!
who said anything about sex.....its just spending time with her, and if something else happens, well then that had nothing to do with it...............
"7. TAN will set cookies on your computer and will record tracking data."
An update of the rules in the faq will also be appreciated.
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rules in the faq are updated, i did it yesterday or so...
[quote user=Matt2k35] A redesign of TAN shouldn't cost money, imho, there's a few of us itching to do it you just won't let us in!
Lotto seems good but perhaps lower the winnings so that more is left for the site and future investments. I'd happily put £3 in a month anyway and get fuck all back . Getting a tenner back wouldn't be so bad. Ten people do this that's £30, £20 goes to TAN and £10 to me. It's not enough to cover the site but it's something.
Also, TAN comments pages are usually long. Cant't you dynamically set the left hand grey space to spam ads as long as the comments are? All I see on the left hand side after the latest comments is fuckloads of wasted grey space.
TL;DR?
Lotto, good but pay out less
Redesign? Not cost money, we'll do it for free
Spam maor ads.
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do it then, i've said this before but nothing ever happens, though aiddorocks did make some stuff, but it was mostly the same just with a new logo or something, i forget. but the point still stands, make a redesign if you want, you don't need anything more than photoshop or gimp... or do it in html/css if you really want.
as for the wasted space on the left of the comments having an ad in, that wouldn't make any more money tbh, coz the ads are ppv, not ppc
"7. TAN will set cookies on your computer and will record tracking data."
An update of the rules in the faq will also be appreciated.
rules in the faq are updated, i did it yesterday or so...
Lotto seems good but perhaps lower the winnings so that more is left for the site and future investments. I'd happily put £3 in a month anyway and get fuck all back . Getting a tenner back wouldn't be so bad. Ten people do this that's £30, £20 goes to TAN and £10 to me. It's not enough to cover the site but it's something.
Also, TAN comments pages are usually long. Cant't you dynamically set the left hand grey space to spam ads as long as the comments are? All I see on the left hand side after the latest comments is fuckloads of wasted grey space.
TL;DR?
Lotto, good but pay out less
Redesign? Not cost money, we'll do it for free
Spam maor ads.
do it then, i've said this before but nothing ever happens, though aiddorocks did make some stuff, but it was mostly the same just with a new logo or something, i forget. but the point still stands, make a redesign if you want, you don't need anything more than photoshop or gimp... or do it in html/css if you really want.
as for the wasted space on the left of the comments having an ad in, that wouldn't make any more money tbh, coz the ads are ppv, not ppc
Needs a complete redesign before anything else.
Needs a complete redesign before anything else.
I'mma try something in CSS and html then cause I blow hard at doing images as a design. I'm better just getting on with it. I'm not a graphical designer in the slightest but I can code nicely.
I'mma try something in CSS and html then cause I blow hard at doing images as a design. I'm better just getting on with it. I'm not a graphical designer in the slightest but I can code nicely.
Needs a complete redesign before anything else.
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yep, but who's gonna pay?
Needs a complete redesign before anything else.
yep, but who's gonna pay?
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Is that good? I can't tell.
Is that good? I can't tell.
Is that good? I can't tell.
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Girls like sparkly, more girls could attract more menfolks...
What we need are camwhores, just look at all the 'friends' they collect on Facebook...
LiveJeuxstine... JessCam... Tuonitube... tits and glamour, y'know...
Is that good? I can't tell.
Girls like sparkly, more girls could attract more menfolks...
What we need are camwhores, just look at all the 'friends' they collect on Facebook...
LiveJeuxstine... JessCam... Tuonitube... tits and glamour, y'know...
Girls like sparkly, more girls could attract more menfolks...
What we need are camwhores, just look at all the 'friends' they collect on Facebook...
LiveJeuxstine... JessCam... Tuonitube... tits and glamour, y'know...
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Your logic is flawless...
Girls like sparkly, more girls could attract more menfolks...
What we need are camwhores, just look at all the 'friends' they collect on Facebook...
LiveJeuxstine... JessCam... Tuonitube... tits and glamour, y'know...
Your logic is flawless...
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Your logic is flawless...
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Indeed...
Your logic is flawless...
Indeed...
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so you're saying tan is ugly? this is a known issue, i believe microsoft might say it was "by design".
so you're saying tan is ugly? this is a known issue, i believe microsoft might say it was "by design".
so you're saying tan is ugly? this is a known issue, i believe microsoft might say it was "by design".
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lol
so you're saying tan is ugly? this is a known issue, i believe microsoft might say it was "by design".
lol
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i'll have you know i've restrained myself very much with your photos and my comments. so i resent that attitude
i'll have you know i've restrained myself very much with your photos and my comments. so i resent that attitude
i'll have you know i've restrained myself very much with your photos and my comments. so i resent that attitude
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thats only because your g/f will beat your ass lol
i'll have you know i've restrained myself very much with your photos and my comments. so i resent that attitude
thats only because your g/f will beat your ass lol
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send your shit to me mate if you need too
send your shit to me mate if you need too
thats only because your g/f will beat your ass lol
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lol
thats only because your g/f will beat your ass lol
lol
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if you can figure out a way to get packages to you, i am more than happy to send them and you can dole them out. one big "moving box" would probably do it, but it would be heavy as hell.
have alot of neat trinkets (my dad died, and we have to get rid of a lot of stuff) that could fit and you could feel right about asking for a $15 to $20 donation for a raffle for them i think.
if you can figure out a way to get packages to you, i am more than happy to send them and you can dole them out. one big "moving box" would probably do it, but it would be heavy as hell.
have alot of neat trinkets (my dad died, and we have to get rid of a lot of stuff) that could fit and you could feel right about asking for a $15 to $20 donation for a raffle for them i think.
if you can figure out a way to get packages to you, i am more than happy to send them and you can dole them out. one big "moving box" would probably do it, but it would be heavy as hell.
have alot of neat trinkets (my dad died, and we have to get rid of a lot of stuff) that could fit and you could feel right about asking for a $15 to $20 donation for a raffle for them i think.
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To cut costs, we could all have garage sales, get rid of some bullshit, and donate some of the proceeds to TAN.
if you can figure out a way to get packages to you, i am more than happy to send them and you can dole them out. one big "moving box" would probably do it, but it would be heavy as hell.
have alot of neat trinkets (my dad died, and we have to get rid of a lot of stuff) that could fit and you could feel right about asking for a $15 to $20 donation for a raffle for them i think.
To cut costs, we could all have garage sales, get rid of some bullshit, and donate some of the proceeds to TAN.
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To cut costs, we could all have garage sales, get rid of some bullshit, and donate some of the proceeds to TAN.
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we tried that, most of the items are specialty items, that you would need to get someone that would appreciate it. for example, i have a 3 foot dragon candle (not ment to be lit, just a pretty) not everyone is into dragons, but it did cost a good 70 bucks. and i am sure there are a few dragon riders around here
To cut costs, we could all have garage sales, get rid of some bullshit, and donate some of the proceeds to TAN.
we tried that, most of the items are specialty items, that you would need to get someone that would appreciate it. for example, i have a 3 foot dragon candle (not ment to be lit, just a pretty) not everyone is into dragons, but it did cost a good 70 bucks. and i am sure there are a few dragon riders around here
I've also got about 5 sets of speakers from home theatres ranging from JVC to Panasonic that I coudl probably shill off for 20 bucks a set. A 52" RCA that I bought back in 05 that needs a flyback transformer, fuse, and control board re-solder (they used high lead solder...idiots, solder joints cracked and arced the board fucking up the transformer and fuse). A dishwasher that needs a new pump that I can easily scrounge around and find, a twin bed, a shit load of entry level car stereo components (mostly speakers I've refurbished/reconed) and a few other goodies I betI could make a few hundred bucks off of.
TAN should just have a spring sell-out and everyone give up some of the proceeds
I've also got about 5 sets of speakers from home theatres ranging from JVC to Panasonic that I coudl probably shill off for 20 bucks a set. A 52" RCA that I bought back in 05 that needs a flyback transformer, fuse, and control board re-solder (they used high lead solder...idiots, solder joints cracked and arced the board fucking up the transformer and fuse). A dishwasher that needs a new pump that I can easily scrounge around and find, a twin bed, a shit load of entry level car stereo components (mostly speakers I've refurbished/reconed) and a few other goodies I betI could make a few hundred bucks off of.
TAN should just have a spring sell-out and everyone give up some of the proceeds
and proof? whyusuchapackrat?
and proof? whyusuchapackrat?
and proof? whyusuchapackrat?
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Nnononoo I mean LOCAL garage sales lol. Not international shipping orders.. who the fuck would buy second, third or even fourth hand shit that someone's just trying to shill off anyways lol
But as for the packrat shit, All the parts are from computers I've replaced motherboards, mostly 2003-2005 era dell's with chinese caps that were more expensive with my labour and the cost of new caps to fix than buy on ebay refurbished or sometimes even brand new, or just more worth it to build new from the ground up, which happened most often. They're all literally in boxes or the cases they belong to and I wanted to take them to an electronics recycler buy never got around to it, the TV is my old RCA piece of garbage that I got for waaay below cost when I was selling at the brick...$343 bucks, not bad from a $1000 retail tv huh? That thing lasted about 1 year then it died and I bought my aquos lol fuck rca anyways.
and proof? whyusuchapackrat?
Nnononoo I mean LOCAL garage sales lol. Not international shipping orders.. who the fuck would buy second, third or even fourth hand shit that someone's just trying to shill off anyways lol
But as for the packrat shit, All the parts are from computers I've replaced motherboards, mostly 2003-2005 era dell's with chinese caps that were more expensive with my labour and the cost of new caps to fix than buy on ebay refurbished or sometimes even brand new, or just more worth it to build new from the ground up, which happened most often. They're all literally in boxes or the cases they belong to and I wanted to take them to an electronics recycler buy never got around to it, the TV is my old RCA piece of garbage that I got for waaay below cost when I was selling at the brick...$343 bucks, not bad from a $1000 retail tv huh? That thing lasted about 1 year then it died and I bought my aquos lol fuck rca anyways.
I've also got about 5 sets of speakers from home theatres ranging from JVC to Panasonic that I coudl probably shill off for 20 bucks a set. A 52" RCA that I bought back in 05 that needs a flyback transformer, fuse, and control board re-solder (they used high lead solder...idiots, solder joints cracked and arced the board fucking up the transformer and fuse). A dishwasher that needs a new pump that I can easily scrounge around and find, a twin bed, a shit load of entry level car stereo components (mostly speakers I've refurbished/reconed) and a few other goodies I betI could make a few hundred bucks off of.
TAN should just have a spring sell-out and everyone give up some of the proceeds
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i REALLY wish i had been tought to solder well,,,being able to recap is VALUBALE knowledge.
[quote user=mac] let me assure you that international shipping costs more than the value of your shit. (cyril)
and proof? whyusuchapackrat?
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and it aint (shit) i would keep everything that i would put up for tan, if i want doing it for tan
I've also got about 5 sets of speakers from home theatres ranging from JVC to Panasonic that I coudl probably shill off for 20 bucks a set. A 52" RCA that I bought back in 05 that needs a flyback transformer, fuse, and control board re-solder (they used high lead solder...idiots, solder joints cracked and arced the board fucking up the transformer and fuse). A dishwasher that needs a new pump that I can easily scrounge around and find, a twin bed, a shit load of entry level car stereo components (mostly speakers I've refurbished/reconed) and a few other goodies I betI could make a few hundred bucks off of.
TAN should just have a spring sell-out and everyone give up some of the proceeds
i REALLY wish i had been tought to solder well,,,being able to recap is VALUBALE knowledge.
and proof? whyusuchapackrat?
and it aint (shit) i would keep everything that i would put up for tan, if i want doing it for tan
i REALLY wish i had been tought to solder well,,,being able to recap is VALUBALE knowledge.
[quote user=mac]and proof? whyusuchapackrat? [/quote]
and it aint (shit) i would keep everything that i would put up for tan, if i want doing it for tan
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Just goto an electronics recycler or buy those bulk used for parts boards off ebay that go for a few bucks and come in dozens, you can practice desoldering, solder pumping, and resoldering on old used caps, if you can successfully solder a used cap, you'll be able to do a new cap that comes with the legs uncut.
i REALLY wish i had been tought to solder well,,,being able to recap is VALUBALE knowledge.
and it aint (shit) i would keep everything that i would put up for tan, if i want doing it for tan
Just goto an electronics recycler or buy those bulk used for parts boards off ebay that go for a few bucks and come in dozens, you can practice desoldering, solder pumping, and resoldering on old used caps, if you can successfully solder a used cap, you'll be able to do a new cap that comes with the legs uncut.