[quote user=EdRoberts] This is precisely where socialism and liberalism gets you - - assholes telling you how you MUST live every single aspect of your lives...enjoy, enjoy [/quote]
No this is exactly where rightwing conservative bastards come into play. They go ahead and gang up with the Christians to tell you what to do. They go ahead and assert their dictator views, while you're being misled into their freedom=slavery bullshit. They want you to cost as less money as possible, and make as much. That means you gotta stay healthy/die quick when you don't otherwise your expensive.
Nah just kidding. Honestly left/right and conservative/progressive doesn't matter all that much mate. It's all about intentions, and sadly most of the politicians in any country have been bought, and thus lack the intent of helping the population.
And one question for you : What freedom are you clinging to? You're a US citizen right? How the hell can you call yourself free in a place like the US, where the people are controlled by fear instead of content?
EdRoberts wrote:
This is precisely where socialism and liberalism gets you - - assholes telling you how you MUST live every single aspect of your lives...enjoy, enjoy
No this is exactly where rightwing conservative bastards come into play. They go ahead and gang up with the Christians to tell you what to do. They go ahead and assert their dictator views, while you're being misled into their freedom=slavery bullshit. They want you to cost as less money as possible, and make as much. That means you gotta stay healthy/die quick when you don't otherwise your expensive.
Nah just kidding. Honestly left/right and conservative/progressive doesn't matter all that much mate. It's all about intentions, and sadly most of the politicians in any country have been bought, and thus lack the intent of helping the population.
And one question for you : What freedom are you clinging to? You're a US citizen right? How the hell can you call yourself free in a place like the US, where the people are controlled by fear instead of content?
[quote user=EdRoberts] This is precisely where socialism and liberalism gets you - - assholes telling you how you MUST live every single aspect of your lives...enjoy, enjoy [/quote]
Socialism would be trying to buy them cigarrettes and provide them with ashtrays.
Next failed troll attempt, please.
EdRoberts wrote:
This is precisely where socialism and liberalism gets you - - assholes telling you how you MUST live every single aspect of your lives...enjoy, enjoy
Socialism would be trying to buy them cigarrettes and provide them with ashtrays.
[quote user=proofinlife] [quote user=EdRoberts]This is precisely where socialism and liberalism gets you - - assholes telling you how you MUST live every single aspect of your lives...enjoy, enjoy[/quote]
Socialism would be trying to buy them cigarrettes and provide them with ashtrays.
Next failed troll attempt, please. [/quote]
^
Sad they cannot provide you with a brain.
proofinlife wrote:
EdRoberts wrote:
This is precisely where socialism and liberalism gets you - - assholes telling you how you MUST live every single aspect of your lives...enjoy, enjoy
Socialism would be trying to buy them cigarrettes and provide them with ashtrays.
....And one question for you : What freedom are you clinging to? You're a US citizen right? How the hell can you call yourself free in a place like the US, where the people are controlled by fear instead of content? [/quote]
We are clinging by our fingertips to whatever ones we can...
fuckyoutan wrote:
....And one question for you : What freedom are you clinging to? You're a US citizen right? How the hell can you call yourself free in a place like the US, where the people are controlled by fear instead of content?
We are clinging by our fingertips to whatever ones we can...
[quote user=EdRoberts] [quote user=fuckyoutan]....And one question for you : What freedom are you clinging to? You're a US citizen right? How the hell can you call yourself free in a place like the US, where the people are controlled by fear instead of content? [/quote]
I am clinging to my bullshit and my penis. [/quote]
EdRoberts wrote:
fuckyoutan wrote:
....And one question for you : What freedom are you clinging to? You're a US citizen right? How the hell can you call yourself free in a place like the US, where the people are controlled by fear instead of content?
[quote user=EdRoberts] This is precisely where socialism and neo-liberalism gets you - - assholes telling you how you MUST live every single aspect of your lives...enjoy, enjoy [/quote]
Fix'd.
EdRoberts wrote:
This is precisely where socialism and neo-liberalism gets you - - assholes telling you how you MUST live every single aspect of your lives...enjoy, enjoy
So a private-employer wants to discriminate against smokers.
Last time this issue came up, the liberal groups defended the smokers, while the libertarians / conservatives took the side of the employer.
Libertarians argued an employer should be able to fire anyone they don't like, and being fat or a smoker raises health costs. Leftists argued if it didn't impact the work directly, rights to privacy should prevent employers from inquiring or testing on such things.
In this case, I doubt anyone is going to defend the smokers. This is a hospital and smoking residue pretty clearly does harm the health of infants, children, and other patients. Everyone seems to agree on this fact, and nobody is going to argue it is harmless in court.
So a private-employer wants to discriminate against smokers.
Last time this issue came up, the liberal groups defended the smokers, while the libertarians / conservatives took the side of the employer.
Libertarians argued an employer should be able to fire anyone they don't like, and being fat or a smoker raises health costs. Leftists argued if it didn't impact the work directly, rights to privacy should prevent employers from inquiring or testing on such things.
In this case, I doubt anyone is going to defend the smokers. This is a hospital and smoking residue pretty clearly does harm the health of infants, children, and other patients. Everyone seems to agree on this fact, and nobody is going to argue it is harmless in court.
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Nah just kidding. Honestly left/right and conservative/progressive doesn't matter all that much mate. It's all about intentions, and sadly most of the politicians in any country have been bought, and thus lack the intent of helping the population.
And one question for you : What freedom are you clinging to? You're a US citizen right? How the hell can you call yourself free in a place like the US, where the people are controlled by fear instead of content?
Nah just kidding. Honestly left/right and conservative/progressive doesn't matter all that much mate. It's all about intentions, and sadly most of the politicians in any country have been bought, and thus lack the intent of helping the population.
And one question for you : What freedom are you clinging to? You're a US citizen right? How the hell can you call yourself free in a place like the US, where the people are controlled by fear instead of content?
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Socialism would be trying to buy them cigarrettes and provide them with ashtrays.
Next failed troll attempt, please.
Socialism would be trying to buy them cigarrettes and provide them with ashtrays.
Next failed troll attempt, please.
Socialism would be trying to buy them cigarrettes and provide them with ashtrays.
Next failed troll attempt, please.
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^
Sad they cannot provide you with a brain.
Socialism would be trying to buy them cigarrettes and provide them with ashtrays.
Next failed troll attempt, please.
^
Sad they cannot provide you with a brain.
....And one question for you : What freedom are you clinging to? You're a US citizen right? How the hell can you call yourself free in a place like the US, where the people are controlled by fear instead of content?
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We are clinging by our fingertips to whatever ones we can...
....And one question for you : What freedom are you clinging to? You're a US citizen right? How the hell can you call yourself free in a place like the US, where the people are controlled by fear instead of content?
We are clinging by our fingertips to whatever ones we can...
I am clinging to my bullshit and my penis.
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I am clinging to my bullshit and my penis.
@ fuckyoutan: ^
I you had a penis, it's too bad you have no balls to go with it...
@ fuckyoutan: ^
I you had a penis, it's too bad you have no balls to go with it...
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Fix'd.
Fix'd.
@ fuckyoutan: ^
I don't have a penis
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Cmon eddy it's ok, we all know whats up. If it's any help at all you know were here for you, anything you need ok?
@ fuckyoutan: ^
I don't have a penis
Cmon eddy it's ok, we all know whats up. If it's any help at all you know were here for you, anything you need ok?
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Last time this issue came up, the liberal groups defended the smokers, while the libertarians / conservatives took the side of the employer.
Libertarians argued an employer should be able to fire anyone they don't like, and being fat or a smoker raises health costs.
Leftists argued if it didn't impact the work directly, rights to privacy should prevent employers from inquiring or testing on such things.
In this case, I doubt anyone is going to defend the smokers. This is a hospital and smoking residue pretty clearly does harm the health of infants, children, and other patients. Everyone seems to agree on this fact, and nobody is going to argue it is harmless in court.
Last time this issue came up, the liberal groups defended the smokers, while the libertarians / conservatives took the side of the employer.
Libertarians argued an employer should be able to fire anyone they don't like, and being fat or a smoker raises health costs.
Leftists argued if it didn't impact the work directly, rights to privacy should prevent employers from inquiring or testing on such things.
In this case, I doubt anyone is going to defend the smokers. This is a hospital and smoking residue pretty clearly does harm the health of infants, children, and other patients. Everyone seems to agree on this fact, and nobody is going to argue it is harmless in court.