That's just fucking low. Days before their pensions? Eh, yet upon leaving parliament, whether it's now, or next election, Cameron will receive sums of money as a past prime minister. I'm no fan of the armed forces and all this "OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN BLAH BLAH TWATTISH SHITE" stuff but that's just fucking sick.
That's just fucking low. Days before their pensions? Eh, yet upon leaving parliament, whether it's now, or next election, Cameron will receive sums of money as a past prime minister. I'm no fan of the armed forces and all this "OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN BLAH BLAH TWATTISH SHITE" stuff but that's just fucking sick.
Well, they were made redundant not fired. STilla fucking shambles. They could've known that doing that to someone 3 days away from retirement would kick up a storm of shit.
Well, they were made redundant not fired. STilla fucking shambles. They could've known that doing that to someone 3 days away from retirement would kick up a storm of shit.
In an undergraduate law class, I once complained about the way labor laws work in the US... if you had to eliminate a position and couldn't objectively demonstrate the least productive employee, you couldn't select those over 40. It seemed arbitrary.
The attorney told me it seems silly, but we have such laws because businesses forced it on themselves. Before age was made a protected class, they would simply fire the older workers to save pension obligations.
In an undergraduate law class, I once complained about the way labor laws work in the US... if you had to eliminate a position and couldn't objectively demonstrate the least productive employee, you couldn't select those over 40. It seemed arbitrary.
The attorney told me it seems silly, but we have such laws because businesses forced it on themselves. Before age was made a protected class, they would simply fire the older workers to save pension obligations.
^ Three of my mates are serving. Two in the Marines, one in the Army. Two of them got an attitude problem after passing out, the third was already a dickhole anyway, but is now a bigger dickhole.
Just saying the military makes people into dickholes. But this shit still sucks dicks.
^ Three of my mates are serving. Two in the Marines, one in the Army. Two of them got an attitude problem after passing out, the third was already a dickhole anyway, but is now a bigger dickhole.
Just saying the military makes people into dickholes. But this shit still sucks dicks.
[quote user=Matt2k35] ^ Three of my mates are serving. Two in the Marines, one in the Army. Two of them got an attitude problem after passing out, the third was already a dickhole anyway, but is now a bigger dickhole.
Just saying the military makes people into dickholes. But this shit still sucks dicks. [/quote]
Can't figure out why you think it sucks when it is quite apparent that your real attitude is similar to this............
[quote user=otester] [quote user=HaloTwister]
good, fuck em. maybe that'll teach them to support a fucking war machine.
just because you're the little guy doing what you're told, doesnt mean you're doing right.
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Matt2k35 wrote:
^ Three of my mates are serving. Two in the Marines, one in the Army. Two of them got an attitude problem after passing out, the third was already a dickhole anyway, but is now a bigger dickhole.
Just saying the military makes people into dickholes. But this shit still sucks dicks.
Can't figure out why you think it sucks when it is quite apparent that your real attitude is similar to this............
otester wrote:
HaloTwister wrote:
good, fuck em. maybe that'll teach them to support a fucking war machine.
just because you're the little guy doing what you're told, doesnt mean you're doing right.
Because those guys still worked for their shit and, for the most part, they weren't in illegal wars for their duration (since it's 16 years min, most in the article spoke of 20+ year services). And I don't like the attack on pensions that's coming form the Tories in place of stopping their buddies in wall street from avoiding taxes and all the rest. Like the military or not I still respect what they do and go through and they fucking deserve the pensions promised to them. They do get shit on enough as it is while they're serving.
Young men seem to go into the military and come out with this attitude that "civvies" are inferior, but meet anyone who's been in there for 20 years+ and you meet a man's man. Shave wood with their beard kind of man.
Because those guys still worked for their shit and, for the most part, they weren't in illegal wars for their duration (since it's 16 years min, most in the article spoke of 20+ year services). And I don't like the attack on pensions that's coming form the Tories in place of stopping their buddies in wall street from avoiding taxes and all the rest. Like the military or not I still respect what they do and go through and they fucking deserve the pensions promised to them. They do get shit on enough as it is while they're serving.
Young men seem to go into the military and come out with this attitude that "civvies" are inferior, but meet anyone who's been in there for 20 years+ and you meet a man's man. Shave wood with their beard kind of man.
^ I see canadian and american embassy soldiers stationed, and they do cutesy shit like helping old ladies across the street. Perhaps you're just crass because these guys have a reason to be assholes, whenever they are. However, yeah, the young punks have entitlement issues. They think they should get everything a 25 year general should get.
^ I see canadian and american embassy soldiers stationed, and they do cutesy shit like helping old ladies across the street. Perhaps you're just crass because these guys have a reason to be assholes, whenever they are. However, yeah, the young punks have entitlement issues. They think they should get everything a 25 year general should get.
[quote user=proofinlife] ^ I see canadian and american embassy soldiers stationed, and they do cutesy shit like helping old ladies across the street. Perhaps you're just crass because these guys have a reason to be assholes, whenever they are. However, yeah, the young punks have entitlement issues. They think they should get everything a 25 year general should get. [/quote]
You think it is just "military guys" that are like that? Jesus, the majority of fucking society has entitlement issues........
proofinlife wrote:
^ I see canadian and american embassy soldiers stationed, and they do cutesy shit like helping old ladies across the street. Perhaps you're just crass because these guys have a reason to be assholes, whenever they are. However, yeah, the young punks have entitlement issues. They think they should get everything a 25 year general should get.
You think it is just "military guys" that are like that? Jesus, the majority of fucking society has entitlement issues........
[quote user=proofinlife] ^ I see canadian and american embassy soldiers stationed, and they do cutesy shit like helping old ladies across the street. Perhaps you're just crass because these guys have a reason to be assholes, whenever they are. However, yeah, the young punks have entitlement issues. They think they should get everything a 25 year general should get. [/quote]
Nah. These guys start fights and shit for no reason. They're dicks!
proofinlife wrote:
^ I see canadian and american embassy soldiers stationed, and they do cutesy shit like helping old ladies across the street. Perhaps you're just crass because these guys have a reason to be assholes, whenever they are. However, yeah, the young punks have entitlement issues. They think they should get everything a 25 year general should get.
Nah. These guys start fights and shit for no reason. They're dicks!
[quote user=Matt2k35] [quote user=proofinlife]^ I see canadian and american embassy soldiers stationed, and they do cutesy shit like helping old ladies across the street. Perhaps you're just crass because these guys have a reason to be assholes, whenever they are. However, yeah, the young punks have entitlement issues. They think they should get everything a 25 year general should get.[/quote]
Nah. These guys start fights and shit for no reason. They're dicks! [/quote]
And this doesnt happen from non-soldiers?
Matt2k35 wrote:
proofinlife wrote:
^ I see canadian and american embassy soldiers stationed, and they do cutesy shit like helping old ladies across the street. Perhaps you're just crass because these guys have a reason to be assholes, whenever they are. However, yeah, the young punks have entitlement issues. They think they should get everything a 25 year general should get.
Nah. These guys start fights and shit for no reason. They're dicks!
[quote user=InSOmnIaC] [quote user=Matt2k35]Nah. These guys start fights and shit for no reason. They're dicks![/quote]
And this doesnt happen from non-soldiers? [/quote]
Of course. But these are my close friends that I grew up with and knew before and after. After joining the military that all had attitude problems within the space of a year. You can't spend a year surrounded by shitloads of testosterone and pumped up guys being told you're the best and elite without it rubbing off on you.
[quote user=proofinlife] [quote user=InSOmnIaC]And this doesnt happen from non-soldiers?[/quote]
You are very correct sir, but apparently all soldiers are dicks
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I said "the military makes people into dickholes" not "all soldiers are dicks". You failing comprehension, again?
Anyway, in any case, though I'm not a military person or a fan there of, I'm even less keen on shit like this. These guys worked for it and they earn it. You spend a lifetime being shot at and treated like an object/tool then you deserve to live out the rest of your days in peace, imho. Except for Solid Snake, of course.
InSOmnIaC wrote:
Matt2k35 wrote:
Nah. These guys start fights and shit for no reason. They're dicks!
And this doesnt happen from non-soldiers?
Of course. But these are my close friends that I grew up with and knew before and after. After joining the military that all had attitude problems within the space of a year. You can't spend a year surrounded by shitloads of testosterone and pumped up guys being told you're the best and elite without it rubbing off on you.
proofinlife wrote:
InSOmnIaC wrote:
And this doesnt happen from non-soldiers?
You are very correct sir, but apparently all soldiers are dicks
I said "the military makes people into dickholes" not "all soldiers are dicks". You failing comprehension, again?
Anyway, in any case, though I'm not a military person or a fan there of, I'm even less keen on shit like this. These guys worked for it and they earn it. You spend a lifetime being shot at and treated like an object/tool then you deserve to live out the rest of your days in peace, imho. Except for Solid Snake, of course.
[quote user=Matt2k35]I said "the military makes people into dickholes" not "all soldiers are dicks".[/quote]
Yet it works wonders on chavs and various criminals. Too bad those exact types are usually banned from joining army. They should just send them all to army instead of jail, instead.
Aggressive people motivated enough to do violent crimes can function well in a society, if pride and discipline is beaten into them.
Matt2k35 wrote:
I said "the military makes people into dickholes" not "all soldiers are dicks".
Yet it works wonders on chavs and various criminals. Too bad those exact types are usually banned from joining army. They should just send them all to army instead of jail, instead.
Aggressive people motivated enough to do violent crimes can function well in a society, if pride and discipline is beaten into them.
good, fuck em. maybe that'll teach them to support a fucking war machine.
just because you're the little guy doing what you're told, doesnt mean you're doing right.
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...And you know this from your lengthy enlistment in which branch of service again?
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dont give me that shit. you dont have to kill people (or support the killing of people) to know that killing people is wrong.
it doesnt take enlistment in the military to understand those tricky philosophies like "right" and "wrong". Duh.
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Riiiight, it's all very black and white, and clearly people only join the military to kill people. Enjoy that warm security blanket while you sleep. You know....the one lots of people died for...
HaloTwister wrote:
sailirish7 wrote:
HaloTwister wrote:
good, fuck em. maybe that'll teach them to support a fucking war machine.
just because you're the little guy doing what you're told, doesnt mean you're doing right.
...And you know this from your lengthy enlistment in which branch of service again?
dont give me that shit. you dont have to kill people (or support the killing of people) to know that killing people is wrong.
it doesnt take enlistment in the military to understand those tricky philosophies like "right" and "wrong". Duh.
Riiiight, it's all very black and white, and clearly people only join the military to kill people. Enjoy that warm security blanket while you sleep. You know....the one lots of people died for...
^ Now that shit has to stop. Those people volunteered for that shit. You don't go around all like "you better be thankful for yo emptied binz, yo, cuz da binz man empties yo bin, nigger. Whut'cho gunna do widout dat?! whut'cho gunna do? Empty yo own bins? Pssht, fuck that, nigger!"
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit. They volunteered to do that stuff and more than likely because they enjoy it (not killing, the whole military sh'bang and shit). I don't need to be thankful for what they're doing.
^ Now that shit has to stop. Those people volunteered for that shit. You don't go around all like "you better be thankful for yo emptied binz, yo, cuz da binz man empties yo bin, nigger. Whut'cho gunna do widout dat?! whut'cho gunna do? Empty yo own bins? Pssht, fuck that, nigger!"
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit. They volunteered to do that stuff and more than likely because they enjoy it (not killing, the whole military sh'bang and shit). I don't need to be thankful for what they're doing.
[quote user=Matt2k35] ^ Now that shit has to stop. Those people volunteered for that shit. You don't go around all like "you better be thankful for yo emptied binz, yo, cuz da binz man empties yo bin, nigger. Whut'cho gunna do widout dat?! whut'cho gunna do? Empty yo own bins? Pssht, fuck that, nigger!"
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit. They volunteered to do that stuff and more than likely because they enjoy it (not killing, the whole military sh'bang and shit). I don't need to be thankful for what they're doing. [/quote]
Soldiering =! "emptying binz"
If the military fights wars you consider "wrong" then perhaps you should protest? Contact your government? Something? Right, my bad, I forgot you lot have no responsibility for what your democratically elected government does in your name.
Matt2k35 wrote:
^ Now that shit has to stop. Those people volunteered for that shit. You don't go around all like "you better be thankful for yo emptied binz, yo, cuz da binz man empties yo bin, nigger. Whut'cho gunna do widout dat?! whut'cho gunna do? Empty yo own bins? Pssht, fuck that, nigger!"
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit. They volunteered to do that stuff and more than likely because they enjoy it (not killing, the whole military sh'bang and shit). I don't need to be thankful for what they're doing.
Soldiering =! "emptying binz"
If the military fights wars you consider "wrong" then perhaps you should protest? Contact your government? Something? Right, my bad, I forgot you lot have no responsibility for what your democratically elected government does in your name.
You are very correct sir, but apparently all soldiers are dicks
I said "the military makes people into dickholes" not "all soldiers are dicks". You failing comprehension, again?
So whats the excuse for you two?
[quote user=Matt2k35] ^ Now that shit has to stop. Those people volunteered for that shit. You don't go around all like "you better be thankful for yo emptied binz, yo, cuz da binz man empties yo bin, nigger. Whut'cho gunna do widout dat?! whut'cho gunna do? Empty yo own bins? Pssht, fuck that, nigger!"
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit. They volunteered to do that stuff and more than likely because they enjoy it (not killing, the whole military sh'bang and shit). I don't need to be thankful for what they're doing. [/quote]
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit...........except a pension. Jesus H. Christ on a crutch you are schizophrenic. The way you are talking I would figure you would be patting the people on the back for cutting their pensions.
@Proofs and Matts
You are very correct sir, but apparently all soldiers are dicks
I said "the military makes people into dickholes" not "all soldiers are dicks". You failing comprehension, again?
So whats the excuse for you two?
Matt2k35 wrote:
^ Now that shit has to stop. Those people volunteered for that shit. You don't go around all like "you better be thankful for yo emptied binz, yo, cuz da binz man empties yo bin, nigger. Whut'cho gunna do widout dat?! whut'cho gunna do? Empty yo own bins? Pssht, fuck that, nigger!"
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit. They volunteered to do that stuff and more than likely because they enjoy it (not killing, the whole military sh'bang and shit). I don't need to be thankful for what they're doing.
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit...........except a pension. Jesus H. Christ on a crutch you are schizophrenic. The way you are talking I would figure you would be patting the people on the back for cutting their pensions.
You are very correct sir, but apparently all soldiers are dicks
I said "the military makes people into dickholes" not "all soldiers are dicks". You failing comprehension, again?
So whats the excuse for you two?
[quote user=Matt2k35]Civilians don't owe soldiers shit. They volunteered to do that stuff and more than likely because they enjoy it (not killing, the whole military sh'bang and shit). I don't need to be thankful for what they're doing.[/quote]
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit...........except a pension. Jesus H. Christ on a crutch you are schizophrenic. The way you are talking I would figure you would be patting the people on the back for cutting their pensions.
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Seems like you're the guy with the problem. Civilians don't pay their pension, the government does. Soldiers pay taxes just like the rest of us and they do a dangerous line of work. They deserve the compensation they (should) get form the government for working for them.
But as for automatically respecting someone because they're a soldier or supposed ot be "supporting our brave troops "helping" people in the middle east" Fuck that shit!
ShanusMaximus wrote:
@Proofs and Matts
You are very correct sir, but apparently all soldiers are dicks
I said "the military makes people into dickholes" not "all soldiers are dicks". You failing comprehension, again?
So whats the excuse for you two?
Matt2k35 wrote:
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit. They volunteered to do that stuff and more than likely because they enjoy it (not killing, the whole military sh'bang and shit). I don't need to be thankful for what they're doing.
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit...........except a pension. Jesus H. Christ on a crutch you are schizophrenic. The way you are talking I would figure you would be patting the people on the back for cutting their pensions.
Seems like you're the guy with the problem. Civilians don't pay their pension, the government does. Soldiers pay taxes just like the rest of us and they do a dangerous line of work. They deserve the compensation they (should) get form the government for working for them.
But as for automatically respecting someone because they're a soldier or supposed ot be "supporting our brave troops "helping" people in the middle east" Fuck that shit!
[quote user=Matt2k35] [quote user=ShanusMaximus]Civilians don't owe soldiers shit...........except a pension. Jesus H. Christ on a crutch you are schizophrenic. The way you are talking I would figure you would be patting the people on the back for cutting their pensions.
[/quote]
Seems like you're the guy with the problem. Civilians don't pay their pension, the government does. Soldiers pay taxes just like the rest of us and they do a dangerous line of work. They deserve the compensation they (should) get form the government for working for them.
But as for automatically respecting someone because they're a soldier or supposed ot be "supporting our brave troops "helping" people in the middle east" Fuck that shit! [/quote]
And just where do you think that money comes from? Is it growing on trees?
Matt2k35 wrote:
ShanusMaximus wrote:
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit...........except a pension. Jesus H. Christ on a crutch you are schizophrenic. The way you are talking I would figure you would be patting the people on the back for cutting their pensions.
Seems like you're the guy with the problem. Civilians don't pay their pension, the government does. Soldiers pay taxes just like the rest of us and they do a dangerous line of work. They deserve the compensation they (should) get form the government for working for them.
But as for automatically respecting someone because they're a soldier or supposed ot be "supporting our brave troops "helping" people in the middle east" Fuck that shit!
And just where do you think that money comes from? Is it growing on trees?
[quote user=DigitalAntichrist] [quote user=mac]^don't mind him, he's english. they all think like that. [/quote]
Aye.
lol. [/quote]
Lol, aye 'cause Scots are a smart bunch too, eh?
Joking aside, Proof, regardless of how pedantic you want to be it's still right. Civilians don't pay Income Tax, National Insurance and Military Pension Fund each month, do they? No, they don't, so kindly stfu.
As much as I don't like the military and shit I still think soldiers ought to be looked after.
DigitalAntichrist wrote:
mac wrote:
^don't mind him, he's english. they all think like that.
Aye.
lol.
Lol, aye 'cause Scots are a smart bunch too, eh?
Joking aside, Proof, regardless of how pedantic you want to be it's still right. Civilians don't pay Income Tax, National Insurance and Military Pension Fund each month, do they? No, they don't, so kindly stfu.
As much as I don't like the military and shit I still think soldiers ought to be looked after.
Ha! No walking around Glasgow in ____ football shirt is exhibit 1. I nearly got jumped in Carlisle train station by a group of Glaswegian lads because they thought I had a Celtic top on a few years back. It was just a green and grey stripped hoody.
Ha! No walking around Glasgow in ____ football shirt is exhibit 1. I nearly got jumped in Carlisle train station by a group of Glaswegian lads because they thought I had a Celtic top on a few years back. It was just a green and grey stripped hoody.
Joking aside, Proof, regardless of how pedantic you want to be it's still right. Civilians don't pay Income Tax, National Insurance and Military Pension Fund each month, do they? No, they don't, so kindly stfu.
As much as I don't like the military and shit I still think soliders ought to be looked after. [/quote]
Joking aside, Proof, regardless of how pedantic you want to be it's still right. Civilians don't pay Income Tax, National Insurance and Military Pension Fund each month, do they? No, they don't, so kindly stfu.
As much as I don't like the military and shit I still think soliders ought to be looked after.
Civvies don't pay an extra tax for military pensions. It comes out of the public purse like all other pensions. Military personnel still pay income tax, also (iirc?) so it's not effectively like "cilvilians pay/owe the military's pension" like Shanus was saying.
.... I don't get your point there?
Civvies don't pay an extra tax for military pensions. It comes out of the public purse like all other pensions. Military personnel still pay income tax, also (iirc?) so it's not effectively like "cilvilians pay/owe the military's pension" like Shanus was saying.
Anyway, this is all retarded. It's a shit trick to make someone redundant days before they are eligible for a pension payout. Shitty, shitty trick in deed.
Anyway, this is all retarded. It's a shit trick to make someone redundant days before they are eligible for a pension payout. Shitty, shitty trick in deed.
[quote user=Matt2k35] .... I don't get your point there?
Civvies don't pay an extra tax for military pensions. It comes out of the public purse like all other pensions. Military personnel still pay income tax, also (iirc?) so it's not effectively like "cilvilians pay/owe the military's pension" like Shanus was saying.
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Sorry, by using an example of what civilian's don't pay, it led me to assume you were suggesting that there was something extra that members of the armed forces paid to fund their pensions...
AFPS comes from general taxation, which is paid by, well, everyone...
Matt2k35 wrote:
.... I don't get your point there?
Civvies don't pay an extra tax for military pensions. It comes out of the public purse like all other pensions. Military personnel still pay income tax, also (iirc?) so it's not effectively like "cilvilians pay/owe the military's pension" like Shanus was saying.
Sorry, by using an example of what civilian's don't pay, it led me to assume you were suggesting that there was something extra that members of the armed forces paid to fund their pensions...
AFPS comes from general taxation, which is paid by, well, everyone...
[quote user=Matt2k35] Anyway, this is all retarded. It's a shit trick to make someone redundant days before they are eligible for a pension payout. Shitty, shitty trick in deed. [/quote]
I concur.
Matt2k35 wrote:
Anyway, this is all retarded. It's a shit trick to make someone redundant days before they are eligible for a pension payout. Shitty, shitty trick in deed.
[quote user=DigitalAntichrist] [quote user=Matt2k35]Civvies don't pay an extra tax for military pensions. It comes out of the public purse like all other pensions. Military personnel still pay income tax, also (iirc?) so it's not effectively like "cilvilians pay/owe the military's pension" like Shanus was saying.
[/quote]
Sorry, by using an example of what civilian's don't pay, it led me to assume you were suggesting that there was something extra that members of the armed forces paid to fund their pensions...
AFPS comes from general taxation, which is paid by, well, everyone... [/quote]
Crossed wires, then? I'm just struggling to see how Shanus doesn't get my stance. I think the military should be looked after but I don't insta-respect someone because they're in the military or jump on board the "our "heroes" are doing sooooo much good work, derp" bandwagons.
DigitalAntichrist wrote:
Matt2k35 wrote:
Civvies don't pay an extra tax for military pensions. It comes out of the public purse like all other pensions. Military personnel still pay income tax, also (iirc?) so it's not effectively like "cilvilians pay/owe the military's pension" like Shanus was saying.
Sorry, by using an example of what civilian's don't pay, it led me to assume you were suggesting that there was something extra that members of the armed forces paid to fund their pensions...
AFPS comes from general taxation, which is paid by, well, everyone...
Crossed wires, then? I'm just struggling to see how Shanus doesn't get my stance. I think the military should be looked after but I don't insta-respect someone because they're in the military or jump on board the "our "heroes" are doing sooooo much good work, derp" bandwagons.
[quote user=Matt2k35] [quote user=DigitalAntichrist]AFPS comes from general taxation, which is paid by, well, everyone...[/quote]
Crossed wires, then? I'm just struggling to see how Shanus doesn't get my stance. I think the military should be looked after but I don't insta-respect someone because they're in the military or jump on board the "our "heroes" are doing sooooo much good work, derp" bandwagons. [/quote]
Aye, I think my brain needs a rest from the constant bullshittery coming out of otester.
A sabbatical is called for. lol.
Matt2k35 wrote:
DigitalAntichrist wrote:
AFPS comes from general taxation, which is paid by, well, everyone...
Crossed wires, then? I'm just struggling to see how Shanus doesn't get my stance. I think the military should be looked after but I don't insta-respect someone because they're in the military or jump on board the "our "heroes" are doing sooooo much good work, derp" bandwagons.
Aye, I think my brain needs a rest from the constant bullshittery coming out of otester.
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That will be fun.
That will be fun.
The attorney told me it seems silly, but we have such laws because businesses forced it on themselves. Before age was made a protected class, they would simply fire the older workers to save pension obligations.
The attorney told me it seems silly, but we have such laws because businesses forced it on themselves. Before age was made a protected class, they would simply fire the older workers to save pension obligations.
good, fuck em. maybe that'll teach them to support a fucking war machine.
just because you're the little guy doing what you're told, doesnt mean you're doing right.
good, fuck em. maybe that'll teach them to support a fucking war machine.
just because you're the little guy doing what you're told, doesnt mean you're doing right.
good, fuck em. maybe that'll teach them to support a fucking war machine.
just because you're the little guy doing what you're told, doesnt mean you're doing right.
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good, fuck em. maybe that'll teach them to support a fucking war machine.
just because you're the little guy doing what you're told, doesnt mean you're doing right.
good, fuck em. maybe that'll teach them to support a fucking war machine.
just because you're the little guy doing what you're told, doesnt mean you're doing right.
[/quote]
...And you know this from your lengthy enlistment in which branch of service again?
good, fuck em. maybe that'll teach them to support a fucking war machine.
just because you're the little guy doing what you're told, doesnt mean you're doing right.
...And you know this from your lengthy enlistment in which branch of service again?
Just saying the military makes people into dickholes. But this shit still sucks dicks.
Just saying the military makes people into dickholes. But this shit still sucks dicks.
Just saying the military makes people into dickholes. But this shit still sucks dicks.
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Can't figure out why you think it sucks when it is quite apparent that your real attitude is similar to this............
[quote user=otester] [quote user=HaloTwister]
good, fuck em. maybe that'll teach them to support a fucking war machine.
just because you're the little guy doing what you're told, doesnt mean you're doing right.
[/quote][/quote]
Just saying the military makes people into dickholes. But this shit still sucks dicks.
Can't figure out why you think it sucks when it is quite apparent that your real attitude is similar to this............
good, fuck em. maybe that'll teach them to support a fucking war machine.
just because you're the little guy doing what you're told, doesnt mean you're doing right.
Young men seem to go into the military and come out with this attitude that "civvies" are inferior, but meet anyone who's been in there for 20 years+ and you meet a man's man. Shave wood with their beard kind of man.
Young men seem to go into the military and come out with this attitude that "civvies" are inferior, but meet anyone who's been in there for 20 years+ and you meet a man's man. Shave wood with their beard kind of man.
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You think it is just "military guys" that are like that? Jesus, the majority of fucking society has entitlement issues........
You think it is just "military guys" that are like that? Jesus, the majority of fucking society has entitlement issues........
good, fuck em. maybe that'll teach them to support a fucking war machine.
just because you're the little guy doing what you're told, doesnt mean you're doing right.
[/quote]...And you know this from your lengthy enlistment in which branch of service again?
[/quote]
dont give me that shit. you dont have to kill people (or support the killing of people) to know that killing people is wrong.
it doesnt take enlistment in the military to understand those tricky philosophies like "right" and "wrong". Duh.
good, fuck em. maybe that'll teach them to support a fucking war machine.
just because you're the little guy doing what you're told, doesnt mean you're doing right.
...And you know this from your lengthy enlistment in which branch of service again?
dont give me that shit. you dont have to kill people (or support the killing of people) to know that killing people is wrong.
it doesnt take enlistment in the military to understand those tricky philosophies like "right" and "wrong". Duh.
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Nah. These guys start fights and shit for no reason. They're dicks!
Nah. These guys start fights and shit for no reason. They're dicks!
Nah. These guys start fights and shit for no reason. They're dicks!
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And this doesnt happen from non-soldiers?
Nah. These guys start fights and shit for no reason. They're dicks!
And this doesnt happen from non-soldiers?
And this doesnt happen from non-soldiers?
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You are very correct sir, but apparently all soldiers are dicks
And this doesnt happen from non-soldiers?
You are very correct sir, but apparently all soldiers are dicks
And this doesnt happen from non-soldiers?
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Of course. But these are my close friends that I grew up with and knew before and after. After joining the military that all had attitude problems within the space of a year. You can't spend a year surrounded by shitloads of testosterone and pumped up guys being told you're the best and elite without it rubbing off on you.
[quote user=proofinlife] [quote user=InSOmnIaC]And this doesnt happen from non-soldiers?[/quote]
You are very correct sir, but apparently all soldiers are dicks
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I said "the military makes people into dickholes" not "all soldiers are dicks". You failing comprehension, again?
Anyway, in any case, though I'm not a military person or a fan there of, I'm even less keen on shit like this. These guys worked for it and they earn it. You spend a lifetime being shot at and treated like an object/tool then you deserve to live out the rest of your days in peace, imho. Except for Solid Snake, of course.
And this doesnt happen from non-soldiers?
Of course. But these are my close friends that I grew up with and knew before and after. After joining the military that all had attitude problems within the space of a year. You can't spend a year surrounded by shitloads of testosterone and pumped up guys being told you're the best and elite without it rubbing off on you.
You are very correct sir, but apparently all soldiers are dicks
I said "the military makes people into dickholes" not "all soldiers are dicks". You failing comprehension, again?
Anyway, in any case, though I'm not a military person or a fan there of, I'm even less keen on shit like this. These guys worked for it and they earn it. You spend a lifetime being shot at and treated like an object/tool then you deserve to live out the rest of your days in peace, imho. Except for Solid Snake, of course.
Yet it works wonders on chavs and various criminals. Too bad those exact types are usually banned from joining army. They should just send them all to army instead of jail, instead.
Aggressive people motivated enough to do violent crimes can function well in a society, if pride and discipline is beaten into them.
Yet it works wonders on chavs and various criminals. Too bad those exact types are usually banned from joining army. They should just send them all to army instead of jail, instead.
Aggressive people motivated enough to do violent crimes can function well in a society, if pride and discipline is beaten into them.
good, fuck em. maybe that'll teach them to support a fucking war machine.
just because you're the little guy doing what you're told, doesnt mean you're doing right.
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[/quote]...And you know this from your lengthy enlistment in which branch of service again?
dont give me that shit. you dont have to kill people (or support the killing of people) to know that killing people is wrong.
it doesnt take enlistment in the military to understand those tricky philosophies like "right" and "wrong". Duh.
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Riiiight, it's all very black and white, and clearly people only join the military to kill people. Enjoy that warm security blanket while you sleep. You know....the one lots of people died for...
good, fuck em. maybe that'll teach them to support a fucking war machine.
just because you're the little guy doing what you're told, doesnt mean you're doing right.
...And you know this from your lengthy enlistment in which branch of service again?
dont give me that shit. you dont have to kill people (or support the killing of people) to know that killing people is wrong.
it doesnt take enlistment in the military to understand those tricky philosophies like "right" and "wrong". Duh.
Riiiight, it's all very black and white, and clearly people only join the military to kill people. Enjoy that warm security blanket while you sleep. You know....the one lots of people died for...
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit. They volunteered to do that stuff and more than likely because they enjoy it (not killing, the whole military sh'bang and shit). I don't need to be thankful for what they're doing.
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit. They volunteered to do that stuff and more than likely because they enjoy it (not killing, the whole military sh'bang and shit). I don't need to be thankful for what they're doing.
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They learn self control, anger management and following rules and orders before they get to the gun part.
They learn self control, anger management and following rules and orders before they get to the gun part.
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit. They volunteered to do that stuff and more than likely because they enjoy it (not killing, the whole military sh'bang and shit). I don't need to be thankful for what they're doing.
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Soldiering =! "emptying binz"
If the military fights wars you consider "wrong" then perhaps you should protest? Contact your government? Something? Right, my bad, I forgot you lot have no responsibility for what your democratically elected government does in your name.
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit. They volunteered to do that stuff and more than likely because they enjoy it (not killing, the whole military sh'bang and shit). I don't need to be thankful for what they're doing.
Soldiering =! "emptying binz"
If the military fights wars you consider "wrong" then perhaps you should protest? Contact your government? Something? Right, my bad, I forgot you lot have no responsibility for what your democratically elected government does in your name.
You are very correct sir, but apparently all soldiers are dicks
I said "the military makes people into dickholes" not "all soldiers are dicks". You failing comprehension, again?
So whats the excuse for you two?
[quote user=Matt2k35] ^ Now that shit has to stop. Those people volunteered for that shit. You don't go around all like "you better be thankful for yo emptied binz, yo, cuz da binz man empties yo bin, nigger. Whut'cho gunna do widout dat?! whut'cho gunna do? Empty yo own bins? Pssht, fuck that, nigger!"
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit. They volunteered to do that stuff and more than likely because they enjoy it (not killing, the whole military sh'bang and shit). I don't need to be thankful for what they're doing.
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Civilians don't owe soldiers shit...........except a pension. Jesus H. Christ on a crutch you are schizophrenic. The way you are talking I would figure you would be patting the people on the back for cutting their pensions.
You are very correct sir, but apparently all soldiers are dicks
I said "the military makes people into dickholes" not "all soldiers are dicks". You failing comprehension, again?
So whats the excuse for you two?
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit. They volunteered to do that stuff and more than likely because they enjoy it (not killing, the whole military sh'bang and shit). I don't need to be thankful for what they're doing.
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit...........except a pension. Jesus H. Christ on a crutch you are schizophrenic. The way you are talking I would figure you would be patting the people on the back for cutting their pensions.
You are very correct sir, but apparently all soldiers are dicks
I said "the military makes people into dickholes" not "all soldiers are dicks". You failing comprehension, again?
So whats the excuse for you two?
[quote user=Matt2k35]Civilians don't owe soldiers shit. They volunteered to do that stuff and more than likely because they enjoy it (not killing, the whole military sh'bang and shit). I don't need to be thankful for what they're doing.[/quote]
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit...........except a pension. Jesus H. Christ on a crutch you are schizophrenic. The way you are talking I would figure you would be patting the people on the back for cutting their pensions.
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Seems like you're the guy with the problem. Civilians don't pay their pension, the government does. Soldiers pay taxes just like the rest of us and they do a dangerous line of work. They deserve the compensation they (should) get form the government for working for them.
But as for automatically respecting someone because they're a soldier or supposed ot be "supporting our brave troops "helping" people in the middle east" Fuck that shit!
You are very correct sir, but apparently all soldiers are dicks
I said "the military makes people into dickholes" not "all soldiers are dicks". You failing comprehension, again?
So whats the excuse for you two?
Civilians don't owe soldiers shit...........except a pension. Jesus H. Christ on a crutch you are schizophrenic. The way you are talking I would figure you would be patting the people on the back for cutting their pensions.
Seems like you're the guy with the problem. Civilians don't pay their pension, the government does. Soldiers pay taxes just like the rest of us and they do a dangerous line of work. They deserve the compensation they (should) get form the government for working for them.
But as for automatically respecting someone because they're a soldier or supposed ot be "supporting our brave troops "helping" people in the middle east" Fuck that shit!
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Nah.
Nah.
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Seems like you're the guy with the problem. Civilians don't pay their pension, the government does. Soldiers pay taxes just like the rest of us and they do a dangerous line of work. They deserve the compensation they (should) get form the government for working for them.
But as for automatically respecting someone because they're a soldier or supposed ot be "supporting our brave troops "helping" people in the middle east" Fuck that shit!
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And just where do you think that money comes from? Is it growing on trees?
Seems like you're the guy with the problem. Civilians don't pay their pension, the government does. Soldiers pay taxes just like the rest of us and they do a dangerous line of work. They deserve the compensation they (should) get form the government for working for them.
But as for automatically respecting someone because they're a soldier or supposed ot be "supporting our brave troops "helping" people in the middle east" Fuck that shit!
And just where do you think that money comes from? Is it growing on trees?
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Aye.
lol.
Aye.
lol.
Aye.
lol.
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hahah
Aye.
lol.
hahah
Aye.
lol.
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Lol, aye 'cause Scots are a smart bunch too, eh?
Joking aside, Proof, regardless of how pedantic you want to be it's still right. Civilians don't pay Income Tax, National Insurance and Military Pension Fund each month, do they? No, they don't, so kindly stfu.
As much as I don't like the military and shit I still think soldiers ought to be looked after.
Aye.
lol.
Lol, aye 'cause Scots are a smart bunch too, eh?
Joking aside, Proof, regardless of how pedantic you want to be it's still right. Civilians don't pay Income Tax, National Insurance and Military Pension Fund each month, do they? No, they don't, so kindly stfu.
As much as I don't like the military and shit I still think soldiers ought to be looked after.
Lol, aye 'cause Scots are a smart bunch too, eh?
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Well, if I'm 'Exhibit 1'... aye, lol.
Lol, aye 'cause Scots are a smart bunch too, eh?
Well, if I'm 'Exhibit 1'... aye, lol.
Lol, aye 'cause Scots are a smart bunch too, eh?
Joking aside, Proof, regardless of how pedantic you want to be it's still right. Civilians don't pay Income Tax, National Insurance and Military Pension Fund each month, do they? No, they don't, so kindly stfu.
As much as I don't like the military and shit I still think soliders ought to be looked after.
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And.... the AFPS is non-contribution based. "Non-Contributory - The state pays the cost of the scheme, no direct contributions towards basic benefits are made, however the individual’s pay award is reduced to reflect the value of the pension relative to other comparable schemes."
Lol, aye 'cause Scots are a smart bunch too, eh?
Joking aside, Proof, regardless of how pedantic you want to be it's still right. Civilians don't pay Income Tax, National Insurance and Military Pension Fund each month, do they? No, they don't, so kindly stfu.
As much as I don't like the military and shit I still think soliders ought to be looked after.
And.... the AFPS is non-contribution based. "Non-Contributory - The state pays the cost of the scheme, no direct contributions towards basic benefits are made, however the individual’s pay award is reduced to reflect the value of the pension relative to other comparable schemes."
Civvies don't pay an extra tax for military pensions. It comes out of the public purse like all other pensions. Military personnel still pay income tax, also (iirc?) so it's not effectively like "cilvilians pay/owe the military's pension" like Shanus was saying.
Civvies don't pay an extra tax for military pensions. It comes out of the public purse like all other pensions. Military personnel still pay income tax, also (iirc?) so it's not effectively like "cilvilians pay/owe the military's pension" like Shanus was saying.
Civvies don't pay an extra tax for military pensions. It comes out of the public purse like all other pensions. Military personnel still pay income tax, also (iirc?) so it's not effectively like "cilvilians pay/owe the military's pension" like Shanus was saying.
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Sorry, by using an example of what civilian's don't pay, it led me to assume you were suggesting that there was something extra that members of the armed forces paid to fund their pensions...
AFPS comes from general taxation, which is paid by, well, everyone...
Civvies don't pay an extra tax for military pensions. It comes out of the public purse like all other pensions. Military personnel still pay income tax, also (iirc?) so it's not effectively like "cilvilians pay/owe the military's pension" like Shanus was saying.
Sorry, by using an example of what civilian's don't pay, it led me to assume you were suggesting that there was something extra that members of the armed forces paid to fund their pensions...
AFPS comes from general taxation, which is paid by, well, everyone...
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I concur.
I concur.
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Sorry, by using an example of what civilian's don't pay, it led me to assume you were suggesting that there was something extra that members of the armed forces paid to fund their pensions...
AFPS comes from general taxation, which is paid by, well, everyone...
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Crossed wires, then? I'm just struggling to see how Shanus doesn't get my stance. I think the military should be looked after but I don't insta-respect someone because they're in the military or jump on board the "our "heroes" are doing sooooo much good work, derp" bandwagons.
Sorry, by using an example of what civilian's don't pay, it led me to assume you were suggesting that there was something extra that members of the armed forces paid to fund their pensions...
AFPS comes from general taxation, which is paid by, well, everyone...
Crossed wires, then? I'm just struggling to see how Shanus doesn't get my stance. I think the military should be looked after but I don't insta-respect someone because they're in the military or jump on board the "our "heroes" are doing sooooo much good work, derp" bandwagons.
Crossed wires, then? I'm just struggling to see how Shanus doesn't get my stance. I think the military should be looked after but I don't insta-respect someone because they're in the military or jump on board the "our "heroes" are doing sooooo much good work, derp" bandwagons.
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Aye, I think my brain needs a rest from the constant bullshittery coming out of otester.
A sabbatical is called for. lol.
Crossed wires, then? I'm just struggling to see how Shanus doesn't get my stance. I think the military should be looked after but I don't insta-respect someone because they're in the military or jump on board the "our "heroes" are doing sooooo much good work, derp" bandwagons.
Aye, I think my brain needs a rest from the constant bullshittery coming out of otester.
A sabbatical is called for. lol.