[quote user=Article] Jamool's husband accused her of 'Zina' (adultery). . . [/quote]
[quote user=Article] "The stoning sentence was imposed after an unfair trial in which she was convicted solely on the basis of her confession and did not have access to a lawyer," [/quote]
The requirement of 4 testimonies, by respected, honorable and trustworthy people, Is near impossible to satisfy. The Prophet knew this was a harsh punishment. Hence the 4 witnesses of reputable backgrounds. Only unless they were intending on testifying against themselves (in which they would have to testify and repeat 4 times) or making their adultery public (ie. Sex in their car where everyone can see).
There are only two testimonies here. Not enough for a conviction.
Article wrote:
Jamool's husband accused her of 'Zina' (adultery). . .
Article wrote:
"The stoning sentence was imposed after an unfair trial in which she was convicted solely on the basis of her confession and did not have access to a lawyer,"
The requirement of 4 testimonies, by respected, honorable and trustworthy people, Is near impossible to satisfy. The Prophet knew this was a harsh punishment. Hence the 4 witnesses of reputable backgrounds. Only unless they were intending on testifying against themselves (in which they would have to testify and repeat 4 times) or making their adultery public (ie. Sex in their car where everyone can see).
There are only two testimonies here. Not enough for a conviction.
^no. Unless she made the mistake of confessing 4 times then at which the law must be upheld, regardless of how harsh. Stoning law, as I've stated above is near impossible to satisfy. If she testified against herself 4 times then she wants to die. But she didn't, lucky for her she's allowed legal help.
^no. Unless she made the mistake of confessing 4 times then at which the law must be upheld, regardless of how harsh. Stoning law, as I've stated above is near impossible to satisfy. If she testified against herself 4 times then she wants to die. But she didn't, lucky for her she's allowed legal help.
[quote user=pimppapy] [quote user=Article]Jamool's husband accused her of 'Zina' (adultery). . . [/quote]
[quote user=Article] [/quote]
The requirement of 4 testimonies, by respected, honorable and trustworthy people, Is near impossible to satisfy. The Prophet knew this was a harsh punishment. Hence the 4 witnesses of reputable backgrounds. Only unless they were intending on testifying against themselves (in which they would have to testify and repeat 4 times) or making their adultery public (ie. Sex in their car where everyone can see).
There are only two testimonies here. Not enough for a conviction. [/quote]
and yet, there she is -- convicted.
pimppapy wrote:
Article wrote:
Jamool's husband accused her of 'Zina' (adultery). . .
Article wrote:
The requirement of 4 testimonies, by respected, honorable and trustworthy people, Is near impossible to satisfy. The Prophet knew this was a harsh punishment. Hence the 4 witnesses of reputable backgrounds. Only unless they were intending on testifying against themselves (in which they would have to testify and repeat 4 times) or making their adultery public (ie. Sex in their car where everyone can see).
There are only two testimonies here. Not enough for a conviction.
[quote user=cadpig] Why is it the woman that get stoned to death for adultery? Didn't the guy play a major role in this. [/quote]
because fuckers in power aren't following the proper protocol. They take the word of one person, who as far as I've seen is just an average joe with his own agenda, Average joe's testimonies aren't acceptable. But these courts are taking them. Also if a person testifies against them-self. His/her testimony only covers himself, and will not include the partner no matter how hard they try to include the other. Only way for both to get tried and punished is the 4 witness situation I stated above.
[quote user=walterp] and yet, there she is -- convicted.
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And you see why I said all that now?
cadpig wrote:
Why is it the woman that get stoned to death for adultery? Didn't the guy play a major role in this.
because fuckers in power aren't following the proper protocol. They take the word of one person, who as far as I've seen is just an average joe with his own agenda, Average joe's testimonies aren't acceptable. But these courts are taking them. Also if a person testifies against them-self. His/her testimony only covers himself, and will not include the partner no matter how hard they try to include the other. Only way for both to get tried and punished is the 4 witness situation I stated above.
[quote user=pimppapy] ^was it religion that motivated you aussies to massacre the Aboriginals? [/quote]
nope, 'twas the racial science the english subscribed to (along with everyone else) in the 19th century. there was actually no such thing as an aussie until 1901.
also, GB declared the land a terra nullis which, really, it still is.
Also, they did a shitty job because i still see the stinking fuckers on occasion. a picture doesn't really prepare you.
pimppapy wrote:
^was it religion that motivated you aussies to massacre the Aboriginals?
nope, 'twas the racial science the english subscribed to (along with everyone else) in the 19th century. there was actually no such thing as an aussie until 1901.
also, GB declared the land a terra nullis which, really, it still is.
Also, they did a shitty job because i still see the stinking fuckers on occasion. a picture doesn't really prepare you.
[quote user=aidorrocks] but a better question is - why is stoning an acceptable punishment for anything?
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an even better question is - why is life in prison, where you are locked up like an animal, can be beaten, raped, forced to suck someones dick, have STD's forced onto you through your asshole and made into someone's bitch everyday for the rest of your existence an acceptable punishment for anything?
aidorrocks wrote:
but a better question is - why is stoning an acceptable punishment for anything?
an even better question is - why is life in prison, where you are locked up like an animal, can be beaten, raped, forced to suck someones dick, have STD's forced onto you through your asshole and made into someone's bitch everyday for the rest of your existence an acceptable punishment for anything?
[quote user=pimppapy] [quote user=aidorrocks]but a better question is - why is stoning an acceptable punishment for anything?
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an even better question is - why is life in prison, where you are locked up like an animal, can be beaten, raped, forced to suck someones dick, have STD's forced onto you through your asshole and made into someone's bitch everyday for the rest of your existence an acceptable punishment for anything?
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you could just use a lethal injection.. though that would require scientific advancement..
pimppapy wrote:
aidorrocks wrote:
but a better question is - why is stoning an acceptable punishment for anything?
an even better question is - why is life in prison, where you are locked up like an animal, can be beaten, raped, forced to suck someones dick, have STD's forced onto you through your asshole and made into someone's bitch everyday for the rest of your existence an acceptable punishment for anything?
you could just use a lethal injection.. though that would require scientific advancement..
[quote user=pimppapy] [quote user=aidorrocks]but a better question is - why is stoning an acceptable punishment for anything?
[/quote]
an even better question is - why is life in prison, where you are locked up like an animal, can be beaten, raped, forced to suck someones dick, have STD's forced onto you through your asshole and made into someone's bitch everyday for the rest of your existence an acceptable punishment for anything?
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Or you could avoid the question entirely because you know it can't be backed up.
pimppapy wrote:
aidorrocks wrote:
but a better question is - why is stoning an acceptable punishment for anything?
an even better question is - why is life in prison, where you are locked up like an animal, can be beaten, raped, forced to suck someones dick, have STD's forced onto you through your asshole and made into someone's bitch everyday for the rest of your existence an acceptable punishment for anything?
Or you could avoid the question entirely because you know it can't be backed up.
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[quote user=Article] "The stoning sentence was imposed after an unfair trial in which she was convicted solely on the basis of her confession and did not have access to a lawyer,"
[/quote]
The requirement of 4 testimonies, by respected, honorable and trustworthy people, Is near impossible to satisfy. The Prophet knew this was a harsh punishment. Hence the 4 witnesses of reputable backgrounds. Only unless they were intending on testifying against themselves (in which they would have to testify and repeat 4 times) or making their adultery public (ie. Sex in their car where everyone can see).
There are only two testimonies here. Not enough for a conviction.
The requirement of 4 testimonies, by respected, honorable and trustworthy people, Is near impossible to satisfy. The Prophet knew this was a harsh punishment. Hence the 4 witnesses of reputable backgrounds. Only unless they were intending on testifying against themselves (in which they would have to testify and repeat 4 times) or making their adultery public (ie. Sex in their car where everyone can see).
There are only two testimonies here. Not enough for a conviction.
[quote user=Article]
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The requirement of 4 testimonies, by respected, honorable and trustworthy people, Is near impossible to satisfy. The Prophet knew this was a harsh punishment. Hence the 4 witnesses of reputable backgrounds. Only unless they were intending on testifying against themselves (in which they would have to testify and repeat 4 times) or making their adultery public (ie. Sex in their car where everyone can see).
There are only two testimonies here. Not enough for a conviction.
[/quote]
and yet, there she is -- convicted.
The requirement of 4 testimonies, by respected, honorable and trustworthy people, Is near impossible to satisfy. The Prophet knew this was a harsh punishment. Hence the 4 witnesses of reputable backgrounds. Only unless they were intending on testifying against themselves (in which they would have to testify and repeat 4 times) or making their adultery public (ie. Sex in their car where everyone can see).
There are only two testimonies here. Not enough for a conviction.
and yet, there she is -- convicted.
[/quote]
because fuckers in power aren't following the proper protocol. They take the word of one person, who as far as I've seen is just an average joe with his own agenda, Average joe's testimonies aren't acceptable. But these courts are taking them. Also if a person testifies against them-self. His/her testimony only covers himself, and will not include the partner no matter how hard they try to include the other. Only way for both to get tried and punished is the 4 witness situation I stated above.
[quote user=walterp]
and yet, there she is -- convicted.
[/quote]
And you see why I said all that now?
because fuckers in power aren't following the proper protocol. They take the word of one person, who as far as I've seen is just an average joe with his own agenda, Average joe's testimonies aren't acceptable. But these courts are taking them. Also if a person testifies against them-self. His/her testimony only covers himself, and will not include the partner no matter how hard they try to include the other. Only way for both to get tried and punished is the 4 witness situation I stated above.
and yet, there she is -- convicted.
And you see why I said all that now?
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nope, 'twas the racial science the english subscribed to (along with everyone else) in the 19th century. there was actually no such thing as an aussie until 1901.
also, GB declared the land a terra nullis which, really, it still is.
Also, they did a shitty job because i still see the stinking fuckers on occasion. a picture doesn't really prepare you.
nope, 'twas the racial science the english subscribed to (along with everyone else) in the 19th century. there was actually no such thing as an aussie until 1901.
also, GB declared the land a terra nullis which, really, it still is.
Also, they did a shitty job because i still see the stinking fuckers on occasion. a picture doesn't really prepare you.
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maybe the guy she had sex with was a single guy. if that's the case, he didn't commit adultery but she did.
but a better question is - why is stoning an acceptable punishment for anything?
fucking savages!
maybe the guy she had sex with was a single guy. if that's the case, he didn't commit adultery but she did.
but a better question is - why is stoning an acceptable punishment for anything?
fucking savages!
but a better question is - why is stoning an acceptable punishment for anything?
[/quote]
an even better question is - why is life in prison, where you are locked up like an animal, can be beaten, raped, forced to suck someones dick, have STD's forced onto you through your asshole and made into someone's bitch everyday for the rest of your existence an acceptable punishment for anything?
but a better question is - why is stoning an acceptable punishment for anything?
an even better question is - why is life in prison, where you are locked up like an animal, can be beaten, raped, forced to suck someones dick, have STD's forced onto you through your asshole and made into someone's bitch everyday for the rest of your existence an acceptable punishment for anything?
[/quote]
an even better question is - why is life in prison, where you are locked up like an animal, can be beaten, raped, forced to suck someones dick, have STD's forced onto you through your asshole and made into someone's bitch everyday for the rest of your existence an acceptable punishment for anything?
[/quote]
you could just use a lethal injection.. though that would require scientific advancement..
an even better question is - why is life in prison, where you are locked up like an animal, can be beaten, raped, forced to suck someones dick, have STD's forced onto you through your asshole and made into someone's bitch everyday for the rest of your existence an acceptable punishment for anything?
you could just use a lethal injection.. though that would require scientific advancement..
[/quote]
an even better question is - why is life in prison, where you are locked up like an animal, can be beaten, raped, forced to suck someones dick, have STD's forced onto you through your asshole and made into someone's bitch everyday for the rest of your existence an acceptable punishment for anything?
[/quote]
Or you could avoid the question entirely because you know it can't be backed up.
an even better question is - why is life in prison, where you are locked up like an animal, can be beaten, raped, forced to suck someones dick, have STD's forced onto you through your asshole and made into someone's bitch everyday for the rest of your existence an acceptable punishment for anything?
Or you could avoid the question entirely because you know it can't be backed up.
you could just use a lethal injection.. though that would require scientific advancement..
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If you're talking about this then I concede
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DcTfWCL1C4[/video]
[quote user=InSOmnIaC] [quote user=pimppapy]
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Or you could avoid the question entirely because you know it can't be backed up.
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kinda like what you just did now right? or the many other times you just stayed silent when posed with a question you didn't like.
you could just use a lethal injection.. though that would require scientific advancement..
If you're talking about this then I concede
Or you could avoid the question entirely because you know it can't be backed up.
kinda like what you just did now right? or the many other times you just stayed silent when posed with a question you didn't like.