normally i'd flame you into the ground about a GMC, but i drove an 06 sierra quadcab a couple of summers ago and it was a nice ride. good suspension. great interior too.
if i were going to get another truck it'd be another toyota... used to co-own a tacoma trd offroad. that was a great truck. sigghhh...
normally i'd flame you into the ground about a GMC, but i drove an 06 sierra quadcab a couple of summers ago and it was a nice ride. good suspension. great interior too.
if i were going to get another truck it'd be another toyota... used to co-own a tacoma trd offroad. that was a great truck. sigghhh...
not much difference between 18 and 24 mpg anyway and the extra space is nice.. especially during carcoital maneuvers, [/quote]
lol mac, that's a pretty bad comparison being 3 classes apart. Light duty is not Full-size, or even mid-size (Colorado, Canyon, Dakota) for that matter.
And actually being 14mpg as per Chevy, that is a huge fucking difference, verified by myself (I don't own one just have driven many) and a few friends that own some. They've never seen over 13 mpg, even with the wind.
mac wrote:
jeuxstine wrote:
ugly truck.
yup.. this one's betterer..
not much difference between 18 and 24 mpg anyway and the extra space is nice.. especially during carcoital maneuvers,
lol mac, that's a pretty bad comparison being 3 classes apart. Light duty is not Full-size, or even mid-size (Colorado, Canyon, Dakota) for that matter.
And actually being 14mpg as per Chevy, that is a huge fucking difference, verified by myself (I don't own one just have driven many) and a few friends that own some. They've never seen over 13 mpg, even with the wind.
that's nice, i'll take something smaller and super reliable any day. You are forgetting that i simply don't give a fuck what any of your gender could possibly think of my vehicle. You see, I buy vehicles based on practical need and ability, not some inane sense of whats cool and trendy.
Then again, you're pretty young so I don't balme you for thinking that way. Similarly in the way you cannot blame a dog when it goes bezerk; it hasn't been trained properly.
jeuxstine wrote:
ugly truck.
that's nice, i'll take something smaller and super reliable any day. You are forgetting that i simply don't give a fuck what any of your gender could possibly think of my vehicle. You see, I buy vehicles based on practical need and ability, not some inane sense of whats cool and trendy.
Then again, you're pretty young so I don't balme you for thinking that way. Similarly in the way you cannot blame a dog when it goes bezerk; it hasn't been trained properly.
that's nice, i'll take something smaller and super reliable any day. You are forgetting that i simply don't give a fuck what any of your gender could possibly think of my vehicle. You see, I buy vehicles based on practical need and ability, not some inane sense of whats cool and trendy.
Then again, you're pretty young so I don't balme you for thinking that way. Similarly in the way you cannot blame a dog when it goes bezerk; it hasn't been trained properly. [/quote]
Shortbox and practical need do not go together. If you NEED a truck you get one with a full-sized box, otherwise you're just another city-hillbilly posing as someone who actually does manual labour.
Wolffe wrote:
jeuxstine wrote:
ugly truck.
that's nice, i'll take something smaller and super reliable any day. You are forgetting that i simply don't give a fuck what any of your gender could possibly think of my vehicle. You see, I buy vehicles based on practical need and ability, not some inane sense of whats cool and trendy.
Then again, you're pretty young so I don't balme you for thinking that way. Similarly in the way you cannot blame a dog when it goes bezerk; it hasn't been trained properly.
Shortbox and practical need do not go together. If you NEED a truck you get one with a full-sized box, otherwise you're just another city-hillbilly posing as someone who actually does manual labour.
that's nice, i'll take something smaller and super reliable any day. You are forgetting that i simply don't give a fuck what any of your gender could possibly think of my vehicle. You see, I buy vehicles based on practical need and ability, not some inane sense of whats cool and trendy.
Then again, you're pretty young so I don't balme you for thinking that way. Similarly in the way you cannot blame a dog when it goes bezerk; it hasn't been trained properly. [/quote]
Wolffe wrote:
jeuxstine wrote:
ugly truck.
that's nice, i'll take something smaller and super reliable any day. You are forgetting that i simply don't give a fuck what any of your gender could possibly think of my vehicle. You see, I buy vehicles based on practical need and ability, not some inane sense of whats cool and trendy.
Then again, you're pretty young so I don't balme you for thinking that way. Similarly in the way you cannot blame a dog when it goes bezerk; it hasn't been trained properly.
strange how the weather hazardous scandinavia keep driving volvos and proportionately sized vans for utility and work then :>
as for 4wd in the style of leisure i see lots of old land- and range rovers, suzukis and toyotas tho. i'd think it'd grip slightly better with a bit more than a sheet metal box resting on the rear end.
this too might be a part of the cultural conspiracy and whatnot
strange how the weather hazardous scandinavia keep driving volvos and proportionately sized vans for utility and work then :>
as for 4wd in the style of leisure i see lots of old land- and range rovers, suzukis and toyotas tho. i'd think it'd grip slightly better with a bit more than a sheet metal box resting on the rear end.
this too might be a part of the cultural conspiracy and whatnot
[quote user=tuoni] A cripple trying to be cool! XD No, what wolffe really needs is one of these:
Trucks are for work, not driving. [/quote]
So everyone should own a car, and when there is that need to move an option bigger than our vehicle we should just shell out and order some delivery company to pick it up? Or how about we just own a nice mileage vehicle that you can fit a queen size mattress into on angle and move your own apartment by your damned self! What about the next weekend when your other buddy needs stuff moved... should he just shell out for the delivery company or should you load his stuff up and help out like a manly friend?
Plus, i thought you were from finland.... don't you fuckers get snow up there? Probably not, seeing how you don't see a 4WD Truck as practical in a northern country...... where they are the most practical vehicles on the road, especially these shit roads in Canada, where wolffe will be driving. His previous solicitation charges are keeping him in the country.
tuoni wrote:
A cripple trying to be cool! XD No, what wolffe really needs is one of these:
Trucks are for work, not driving.
So everyone should own a car, and when there is that need to move an option bigger than our vehicle we should just shell out and order some delivery company to pick it up? Or how about we just own a nice mileage vehicle that you can fit a queen size mattress into on angle and move your own apartment by your damned self! What about the next weekend when your other buddy needs stuff moved... should he just shell out for the delivery company or should you load his stuff up and help out like a manly friend?
Plus, i thought you were from finland.... don't you fuckers get snow up there? Probably not, seeing how you don't see a 4WD Truck as practical in a northern country...... where they are the most practical vehicles on the road, especially these shit roads in Canada, where wolffe will be driving. His previous solicitation charges are keeping him in the country.
[quote user=proofinlife]So everyone should own a car, and when there is that need to move an option bigger than our vehicle we should just shell out and order some delivery company to pick it up? Or how about we just own a nice mileage vehicle that you can fit a queen size mattress into on angle and move your own apartment by your damned self! What about the next weekend when your other buddy needs stuff moved... should he just shell out for the delivery company or should you load his stuff up and help out like a manly friend?
Plus, i thought you were from finland.... don't you fuckers get snow up there? Probably not, seeing how you don't see a 4WD Truck as practical in a northern country...... where they are the most practical vehicles on the road, especially these shit roads in Canada, where wolffe will be driving. His previous solicitation charges are keeping him in the country.
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I don't know about you, but we plow and maintain our roads. There's no real need for 4wd, unless you really need it for something like work (fire fighter, police, other emergency, towing, forestry, some delivery, etc.). You'd also be amazed at how much you can cram into a compact car ... and when that's not enough, you just hook up your trailer.
If all comes to worst, there's tractors pulling a trailer, or even borrowing a real truck (as in 6 or more wheels) from work, or even renting. It's not that common though.
Outside of work, there aren't that many (personal car) trucks. Actually, there aren't that many trucks at all. Vans, semivans, jeeps, minijeeps, some SUVs ... but very few trucks. Even with a hardcore hunter you're much more likely to see them in a jap/volvo station wagon pulling a trailer than in a truck. Overall, I think there are far more tractors than trucks in Finland. Even more real trucks (as in 6 or more wheels) than (personal car) trucks.
proofinlife wrote:
So everyone should own a car, and when there is that need to move an option bigger than our vehicle we should just shell out and order some delivery company to pick it up? Or how about we just own a nice mileage vehicle that you can fit a queen size mattress into on angle and move your own apartment by your damned self! What about the next weekend when your other buddy needs stuff moved... should he just shell out for the delivery company or should you load his stuff up and help out like a manly friend?
Plus, i thought you were from finland.... don't you fuckers get snow up there? Probably not, seeing how you don't see a 4WD Truck as practical in a northern country...... where they are the most practical vehicles on the road, especially these shit roads in Canada, where wolffe will be driving. His previous solicitation charges are keeping him in the country.
I don't know about you, but we plow and maintain our roads. There's no real need for 4wd, unless you really need it for something like work (fire fighter, police, other emergency, towing, forestry, some delivery, etc.). You'd also be amazed at how much you can cram into a compact car ... and when that's not enough, you just hook up your trailer.
If all comes to worst, there's tractors pulling a trailer, or even borrowing a real truck (as in 6 or more wheels) from work, or even renting. It's not that common though.
Outside of work, there aren't that many (personal car) trucks. Actually, there aren't that many trucks at all. Vans, semivans, jeeps, minijeeps, some SUVs ... but very few trucks. Even with a hardcore hunter you're much more likely to see them in a jap/volvo station wagon pulling a trailer than in a truck. Overall, I think there are far more tractors than trucks in Finland. Even more real trucks (as in 6 or more wheels) than (personal car) trucks.
[quote user=tuoni] [quote user=proofinlife]Plus, i thought you were from finland.... don't you fuckers get snow up there? Probably not, seeing how you don't see a 4WD Truck as practical in a northern country...... where they are the most practical vehicles on the road, especially these shit roads in Canada, where wolffe will be driving. His previous solicitation charges are keeping him in the country.
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I don't know about you, but we plow and maintain our roads. There's no real need for 4wd, unless you really need it for something like work (fire fighter, police, other emergency, towing, forestry, some delivery, etc.). You'd also be amazed at how much you can cram into a compact car ... and when that's not enough, you just hook up your trailer.
If all comes to worst, there's tractors pulling a trailer, or even borrowing a real truck (as in 6 or more wheels) from work, or even renting. It's not that common though.
Outside of work, there aren't that many (personal car) trucks. Actually, there aren't that many trucks at all. Vans, semivans, jeeps, minijeeps, some SUVs ... but very few trucks. Even with a hardcore hunter you're much more likely to see them in a jap/volvo station wagon pulling a trailer than in a truck. Overall, I think there are far more tractors than trucks in Finland. Even more real trucks (as in 6 or more wheels) than (personal car) trucks.
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I'd bet you I can fit more in the cab of a quad cab ranger than any of your shit can compacts. Then there's the box... no comparison.
All I can say is, you guys must not get a lot of snow. Ever go three weeks where you're pounded by a foot of snow during the night? Ever try to drive to work over highways with 4 foot tall snow drifts? Have you ever attempted to drive in these conditions with a fucking tin can? Have you ever had to drive down unmaintained roads to job sites through 3-4 feet of snow? Do you think a car would make it? There is your reasoning for why so many canadians have 4x4 equipped trucks sitting in their driveways.
What the fuck is the point of owning a car with a trailer when you can have a truck? What is the point of possibly damaging/mangling your car's frame because you have absolutely no trailer sway or balancing system? Why not just have a nice, fuel efficient vehicle that can literally go anywhere that has solid ground and won't risk damaging it by hooking up needless trailers? Do you prefer to be that asshole driving 40 km under the speed limit because your vehicle isn't properly equipped to manage the load?
Yeah, i'd rather have all that I need sitting in my driveway, which can double as a daily driver as well. In terms of vehicle needs, I can do whatever the fuck i'd want to, whever the fuck I'd want to do it. Freedom? Trucks.
tuoni wrote:
proofinlife wrote:
Plus, i thought you were from finland.... don't you fuckers get snow up there? Probably not, seeing how you don't see a 4WD Truck as practical in a northern country...... where they are the most practical vehicles on the road, especially these shit roads in Canada, where wolffe will be driving. His previous solicitation charges are keeping him in the country.
I don't know about you, but we plow and maintain our roads. There's no real need for 4wd, unless you really need it for something like work (fire fighter, police, other emergency, towing, forestry, some delivery, etc.). You'd also be amazed at how much you can cram into a compact car ... and when that's not enough, you just hook up your trailer.
If all comes to worst, there's tractors pulling a trailer, or even borrowing a real truck (as in 6 or more wheels) from work, or even renting. It's not that common though.
Outside of work, there aren't that many (personal car) trucks. Actually, there aren't that many trucks at all. Vans, semivans, jeeps, minijeeps, some SUVs ... but very few trucks. Even with a hardcore hunter you're much more likely to see them in a jap/volvo station wagon pulling a trailer than in a truck. Overall, I think there are far more tractors than trucks in Finland. Even more real trucks (as in 6 or more wheels) than (personal car) trucks.
I'd bet you I can fit more in the cab of a quad cab ranger than any of your shit can compacts. Then there's the box... no comparison.
All I can say is, you guys must not get a lot of snow. Ever go three weeks where you're pounded by a foot of snow during the night? Ever try to drive to work over highways with 4 foot tall snow drifts? Have you ever attempted to drive in these conditions with a fucking tin can? Have you ever had to drive down unmaintained roads to job sites through 3-4 feet of snow? Do you think a car would make it? There is your reasoning for why so many canadians have 4x4 equipped trucks sitting in their driveways.
What the fuck is the point of owning a car with a trailer when you can have a truck? What is the point of possibly damaging/mangling your car's frame because you have absolutely no trailer sway or balancing system? Why not just have a nice, fuel efficient vehicle that can literally go anywhere that has solid ground and won't risk damaging it by hooking up needless trailers? Do you prefer to be that asshole driving 40 km under the speed limit because your vehicle isn't properly equipped to manage the load?
Yeah, i'd rather have all that I need sitting in my driveway, which can double as a daily driver as well. In terms of vehicle needs, I can do whatever the fuck i'd want to, whever the fuck I'd want to do it. Freedom? Trucks.
I'd bet you I can fit more in the cab of a quad cab ranger than any of your shit can compacts. Then there's the box... no comparison.
All I can say is, you guys must not get a lot of snow. Ever go three weeks where you're pounded by a foot of snow during the night? Ever try to drive to work over highways with 4 foot tall snow drifts? Have you ever attempted to drive in these conditions with a fucking tin can? Have you ever had to drive down unmaintained roads to job sites through 3-4 feet of snow? Do you think a car would make it? There is your reasoning for why so many canadians have 4x4 equipped trucks sitting in their driveways.
What the fuck is the point of owning a car with a trailer when you can have a truck? What is the point of possibly damaging/mangling your car's frame because you have absolutely no trailer sway or balancing system? Why not just have a nice, fuel efficient vehicle that can literally go anywhere that has solid ground and won't risk damaging it by hooking up needless trailers? Do you prefer to be that asshole driving 40 km under the speed limit because your vehicle isn't properly equipped to manage the load?
Yeah, i'd rather have all that I need sitting in my driveway, which can double as a daily driver as well. In terms of vehicle needs, I can do whatever the fuck i'd want to, whever the fuck I'd want to do it. Freedom? Trucks. [/quote]
you are derping a bit here now, proofinlife. you are actually doubting the amount of snow that falls in the nordic regions, just because we utilise trailers and hangers instead of trucks and pickups and other 4wd vehicles of equal nature. if you're out to discredit nordics just because we prefer volvos to these trucks and pickups, there is no discussion here, it'll just be buffaloes headbutting.
proofinlife wrote:
I'd bet you I can fit more in the cab of a quad cab ranger than any of your shit can compacts. Then there's the box... no comparison.
All I can say is, you guys must not get a lot of snow. Ever go three weeks where you're pounded by a foot of snow during the night? Ever try to drive to work over highways with 4 foot tall snow drifts? Have you ever attempted to drive in these conditions with a fucking tin can? Have you ever had to drive down unmaintained roads to job sites through 3-4 feet of snow? Do you think a car would make it? There is your reasoning for why so many canadians have 4x4 equipped trucks sitting in their driveways.
What the fuck is the point of owning a car with a trailer when you can have a truck? What is the point of possibly damaging/mangling your car's frame because you have absolutely no trailer sway or balancing system? Why not just have a nice, fuel efficient vehicle that can literally go anywhere that has solid ground and won't risk damaging it by hooking up needless trailers? Do you prefer to be that asshole driving 40 km under the speed limit because your vehicle isn't properly equipped to manage the load?
Yeah, i'd rather have all that I need sitting in my driveway, which can double as a daily driver as well. In terms of vehicle needs, I can do whatever the fuck i'd want to, whever the fuck I'd want to do it. Freedom? Trucks.
you are derping a bit here now, proofinlife. you are actually doubting the amount of snow that falls in the nordic regions, just because we utilise trailers and hangers instead of trucks and pickups and other 4wd vehicles of equal nature. if you're out to discredit nordics just because we prefer volvos to these trucks and pickups, there is no discussion here, it'll just be buffaloes headbutting.
They're pretty ugly work vehicles. Why anyone would drive one as their main vehicle is beyond me. A guy across the street has a ranger and it's always in my fucking way, so maybe that's why I don't like them. I went offroading in a range rover years ago-heightened suspensions, snorkel, offroad tyres etc. Man, that was some fun, but the cost of fuel these days, filling it up at the pumps wouldn't be.
They're pretty ugly work vehicles. Why anyone would drive one as their main vehicle is beyond me. A guy across the street has a ranger and it's always in my fucking way, so maybe that's why I don't like them. I went offroading in a range rover years ago-heightened suspensions, snorkel, offroad tyres etc. Man, that was some fun, but the cost of fuel these days, filling it up at the pumps wouldn't be.
[quote user=norwegianmog] [quote user=proofinlife]Yeah, i'd rather have all that I need sitting in my driveway, which can double as a daily driver as well. In terms of vehicle needs, I can do whatever the fuck i'd want to, whever the fuck I'd want to do it. Freedom? Trucks.[/quote]
you are derping a bit here now, proofinlife. you are actually doubting the amount of snow that falls in the nordic regions, just because we utilise trailers and hangers instead of trucks and pickups and other 4wd vehicles of equal nature. if you're out to discredit nordics just because we prefer volvos to these trucks and pickups, there is no discussion here, it'll just be buffaloes headbutting. [/quote]
Then what do you nords use for deep snow private road access? Snowmobiles and toboggans? Cross-Country skiis? Dog Sleds? Seriously.... it's not like there isn't private property in any of the Scandinavian countries that isn't covered with snow because the owner doesn't maintain... that, or you truly don't get as much snow as you'd like to think you do.
The only good Land/Range Rovers were pre-2008 Ford Era, now they're indian built curry bombs that can't hold up in the cold even as well as a piece of shit hyundai. When they bought them from Ford they should have atleast made a deal for some of those cold weather testing data sheets, would've helped a lot with Northern Canadian sales... which they are about as reliable as a Hyndai in terms of actually being able to start in the winter since the sale.
norwegianmog wrote:
proofinlife wrote:
Yeah, i'd rather have all that I need sitting in my driveway, which can double as a daily driver as well. In terms of vehicle needs, I can do whatever the fuck i'd want to, whever the fuck I'd want to do it. Freedom? Trucks.
you are derping a bit here now, proofinlife. you are actually doubting the amount of snow that falls in the nordic regions, just because we utilise trailers and hangers instead of trucks and pickups and other 4wd vehicles of equal nature. if you're out to discredit nordics just because we prefer volvos to these trucks and pickups, there is no discussion here, it'll just be buffaloes headbutting.
Then what do you nords use for deep snow private road access? Snowmobiles and toboggans? Cross-Country skiis? Dog Sleds? Seriously.... it's not like there isn't private property in any of the Scandinavian countries that isn't covered with snow because the owner doesn't maintain... that, or you truly don't get as much snow as you'd like to think you do.
The only good Land/Range Rovers were pre-2008 Ford Era, now they're indian built curry bombs that can't hold up in the cold even as well as a piece of shit hyundai. When they bought them from Ford they should have atleast made a deal for some of those cold weather testing data sheets, would've helped a lot with Northern Canadian sales... which they are about as reliable as a Hyndai in terms of actually being able to start in the winter since the sale.
^we're the nordics, there is no such thing as private roads!~ well, on a serious note, there is no road privately owned that are pivotal to the infrastructure. if you need accessibility, the government will provide. not a wide road, or a flat one, but it'll always be cleared. i've seriously never been on a road that had more than max. two feet of snow, cos the plows do not only work shifts, they work what we call sleep shifts too, meaning they get paid to stay at home, but be alerted to plow even at 3am if some local backroad is brimming with snow. even if snow starts falling, they're obliged to get up and assess the situation continuously, before they break out their plower. roads and other vital connections are basically not allowed to be snowed shut.
as for the land rovers i suppose only time will tell if the new ones are as good as the 90s ones, cos the 70s/80s range rovers were fairly crappy. the land rover discovery has proven to be a very reliable vehicle, but still, these are cars outside the normal family's price range. the older ones are what people use for leisure 4wd, here examplified by an aquaintance of mine and his group of hobby 4 wheel drivers!~
i guess what i'm saying is while trucks have a proven capacity, i'm not arguing that at all, there is also room for ordinary cars, and a problem free winter for them. brush off the snow and go. besides, where there's displacement tax, environmental/mpg tax, weight tax and horsepower tax, i suppose it'd be cheaper buying a 160 hp diesel station wagon and a trailer than a 5/6 seater truck.
^we're the nordics, there is no such thing as private roads!~ well, on a serious note, there is no road privately owned that are pivotal to the infrastructure. if you need accessibility, the government will provide. not a wide road, or a flat one, but it'll always be cleared. i've seriously never been on a road that had more than max. two feet of snow, cos the plows do not only work shifts, they work what we call sleep shifts too, meaning they get paid to stay at home, but be alerted to plow even at 3am if some local backroad is brimming with snow. even if snow starts falling, they're obliged to get up and assess the situation continuously, before they break out their plower. roads and other vital connections are basically not allowed to be snowed shut.
as for the land rovers i suppose only time will tell if the new ones are as good as the 90s ones, cos the 70s/80s range rovers were fairly crappy. the land rover discovery has proven to be a very reliable vehicle, but still, these are cars outside the normal family's price range. the older ones are what people use for leisure 4wd, examplified by an aquaintance of mine and his group of hobby 4 wheel drivers!~
i guess what i'm saying is while trucks have a proven capacity, i'm not arguing that at all, there is also room for ordinary cars, and a problem free winter for them. brush off the snow and go. besides, where there's displacement tax, environmental/mpg tax, weight tax and horsepower tax, i suppose it'd be cheaper buying a 160 hp diesel station wagon and a trailer than a 5/6 seater truck.
^ Yeah, we get 1 - 4 feet dropped on us over night and it doesn't matter if our night or day crew is running, if the snow is still dropping shit will be digustingly messy, and I can guarantee you, not many cars are getting through that stuff quite easily.
Found this on youtube by searching for ford ranger offroad winter :
This is actually how our backroads look during a normal winter, every night even after plowing.
This winter has been disgustingly warm, and in the last 3 days we've gotten 3 feet of snow, and that's 99% of the snow that has hit all winter. Very odd weather indeed.
That little ranger was making it through no problem, not many cars could make it through that. Now imagine a big truck in the same conditions :
And that is how us canadians like to play in the winter.
^ Yeah, we get 1 - 4 feet dropped on us over night and it doesn't matter if our night or day crew is running, if the snow is still dropping shit will be digustingly messy, and I can guarantee you, not many cars are getting through that stuff quite easily.
Found this on youtube by searching for ford ranger offroad winter :
This is actually how our backroads look during a normal winter, every night even after plowing.
This winter has been disgustingly warm, and in the last 3 days we've gotten 3 feet of snow, and that's 99% of the snow that has hit all winter. Very odd weather indeed.
That little ranger was making it through no problem, not many cars could make it through that. Now imagine a big truck in the same conditions :
And that is how us canadians like to play in the winter.
^oh man. what do you wheel in? i should post my offroading pics/vids and we should trade stories. used to have an 06 tacoma trd offroad and an 01 cherokee with a 6'' lift, hella floodlights, proper winch, stripped the interior fabric and put in metal sheeting, and bigol mickey thompsons to climb mountains and cross rivers. the trails we blazed... siiigh.
... and wolffe says i'm just in it for the "trendy and cool". pfft. whiny little faggot deserves the ugly gutless shortbox.
^oh man. what do you wheel in? i should post my offroading pics/vids and we should trade stories. used to have an 06 tacoma trd offroad and an 01 cherokee with a 6'' lift, hella floodlights, proper winch, stripped the interior fabric and put in metal sheeting, and bigol mickey thompsons to climb mountains and cross rivers. the trails we blazed... siiigh.
... and wolffe says i'm just in it for the "trendy and cool". pfft. whiny little faggot deserves the ugly gutless shortbox.
[quote user=proofinlife] ^ Yeah, we get 1 - 4 feet dropped on us over night and it doesn't matter if our night or day crew is running, if the snow is still dropping shit will be digustingly messy, and I can guarantee you, not many cars are getting through that stuff quite easily.
Found this on youtube by searching for ford ranger offroad winter :
This is actually how our backroads look during a normal winter, every night even after plowing.
This winter has been disgustingly warm, and in the last 3 days we've gotten 3 feet of snow, and that's 99% of the snow that has hit all winter. Very odd weather indeed.
That little ranger was making it through no problem, not many cars could make it through that. Now imagine a big truck in the same conditions :
And that is how us canadians like to play in the winter. [/quote]
proofinlife wrote:
^ Yeah, we get 1 - 4 feet dropped on us over night and it doesn't matter if our night or day crew is running, if the snow is still dropping shit will be digustingly messy, and I can guarantee you, not many cars are getting through that stuff quite easily.
Found this on youtube by searching for ford ranger offroad winter :
This is actually how our backroads look during a normal winter, every night even after plowing.
This winter has been disgustingly warm, and in the last 3 days we've gotten 3 feet of snow, and that's 99% of the snow that has hit all winter. Very odd weather indeed.
That little ranger was making it through no problem, not many cars could make it through that. Now imagine a big truck in the same conditions :
And that is how us canadians like to play in the winter.
[quote user=jeuxstine] ^oh man. what do you wheel in? i should post my offroading pics/vids and we should trade stories. used to have an 06 tacoma srt offroad and an 01 cherokee with a 6'' lift, hella floodlights, proper winch, stripped the interior fabric and put in metal sheeting, and bigol mickey thompsons to climb mountains and cross rivers. the trails we blazed... siiigh.
... and wolffe says i'm just in it for the "trendy and cool". pfft. whiny little faggot deserves the ugly gutless shortbox. [/quote]
Marry me. Now.
I jest.
Back in 03 I had myself a 2 wheel drive ranger converted 4wd (shortbox with 4WD and 4.0L), it was a BEAST! Originally it was only two wheel drive, and with my ol' goodyears on there I used to fly by everyone stuck in the mud at the offroad pit (we call it there, it's a big pit with different levels so you can take jumps or wall-crawl, w/e). But then I cracked my 3.0L block, and we dropped my buddy's '02 4.0L and it's tranny, my buddy joe pulled Einstein and fitted a transfer case from a completely different vehicle (I think it was an explorer) to my tranny and ran everything like a pro. He rebuilt it for me and it was better than the original "exploder" transfer case. The only ugly part was that it was electronic engage, so i had to run the explorer 4x4 panel to the side of my ranger's deck/climate control/fans. It looked hella tacky, but it worked lol. I probably could've just made my own switch, but I idgaf lol
Then I crashed into the side of a building one night trying to stop on bloody shear ice and smashed the front end to pieces. Autopac (insurance) wouldn't cover it, so i had to kiss my baby goodbye :( So now I've got my grand prix, definitely a kick in the ass from having a truck, I miss being able to throw freshly chopped wood in the back of my truck and heading out to a weekend beerfest at the local lake.
I will be getting myself a truck soon, again, though. I won't be buying brand new because I fucking hate warranty and would rather work on or by everything myself than rely on shit OEM hardware. It'll either be a Ford F-150 SHO or a Dodge Ram 1500 (not sure which one yet). Really it's just down to the price, and dodge keeps putting out nice sales that dips that leather interior heated seats 4x4 monster 5 or 6,000 below that Ford's sticker price.
But, to be honest, me and my buddy trade our vehicles all the fucking time. He had my car for a whole month while he was down south for work last winter so I had his F-150 Baja Raptor for a whole month....heheheheehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe. I did have to buy him a new tire ($700 bucks wtf?!?!) because I completely ripped the tire in half taking a jump across a back road lol
I do miss the ol' ranger tho. The most epic part about that truck had nothing to do with the truck's abilities at all. It was the fact that back when I had it I used to do a shit tonne of weight training, so I was this 6'6 musclebound freak driving this single cab stick shift ranger. I used to get a lot of epic thumbs up from guys around town not because the truck was cool or powerful for it's size, but because I literally filled the whole front seat up because of my shoulders lol.
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^oh man. what do you wheel in? i should post my offroading pics/vids and we should trade stories. used to have an 06 tacoma srt offroad and an 01 cherokee with a 6'' lift, hella floodlights, proper winch, stripped the interior fabric and put in metal sheeting, and bigol mickey thompsons to climb mountains and cross rivers. the trails we blazed... siiigh.
... and wolffe says i'm just in it for the "trendy and cool". pfft. whiny little faggot deserves the ugly gutless shortbox.
Marry me. Now.
I jest.
Back in 03 I had myself a 2 wheel drive ranger converted 4wd (shortbox with 4WD and 4.0L), it was a BEAST! Originally it was only two wheel drive, and with my ol' goodyears on there I used to fly by everyone stuck in the mud at the offroad pit (we call it there, it's a big pit with different levels so you can take jumps or wall-crawl, w/e). But then I cracked my 3.0L block, and we dropped my buddy's '02 4.0L and it's tranny, my buddy joe pulled Einstein and fitted a transfer case from a completely different vehicle (I think it was an explorer) to my tranny and ran everything like a pro. He rebuilt it for me and it was better than the original "exploder" transfer case. The only ugly part was that it was electronic engage, so i had to run the explorer 4x4 panel to the side of my ranger's deck/climate control/fans. It looked hella tacky, but it worked lol. I probably could've just made my own switch, but I idgaf lol
Then I crashed into the side of a building one night trying to stop on bloody shear ice and smashed the front end to pieces. Autopac (insurance) wouldn't cover it, so i had to kiss my baby goodbye So now I've got my grand prix, definitely a kick in the ass from having a truck, I miss being able to throw freshly chopped wood in the back of my truck and heading out to a weekend beerfest at the local lake.
I will be getting myself a truck soon, again, though. I won't be buying brand new because I fucking hate warranty and would rather work on or by everything myself than rely on shit OEM hardware. It'll either be a Ford F-150 SHO or a Dodge Ram 1500 (not sure which one yet). Really it's just down to the price, and dodge keeps putting out nice sales that dips that leather interior heated seats 4x4 monster 5 or 6,000 below that Ford's sticker price.
But, to be honest, me and my buddy trade our vehicles all the fucking time. He had my car for a whole month while he was down south for work last winter so I had his F-150 Baja Raptor for a whole month....heheheheehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe. I did have to buy him a new tire ($700 bucks wtf?!?!) because I completely ripped the tire in half taking a jump across a back road lol
I do miss the ol' ranger tho. The most epic part about that truck had nothing to do with the truck's abilities at all. It was the fact that back when I had it I used to do a shit tonne of weight training, so I was this 6'6 musclebound freak driving this single cab stick shift ranger. I used to get a lot of epic thumbs up from guys around town not because the truck was cool or powerful for it's size, but because I literally filled the whole front seat up because of my shoulders lol.
^haha sounds like the wiring to the floods we did. they weren't working properly with the high-beams so we wired it to an improvised light switch in the cab, and kept it taped under the dashboard. classy. RIP ranger :( sounds like a sweet ride while it lasted.
we went with the same crew most trips, which included a ranger, an escape, a sierra, a couple of rams, a tj, another cherokee, and a pathfinder... so of course nobody could ever agree on which brand of truck was superior. one of my favourite offroading stories was when this tried-and-true fuckup we knew through the army had just bought himself a big black brand-new ram with the 5.7 hemi and was ready to show off. we were taking turns bogging an improvised loop route through some foothills marshland that was flooded and muddy from the spring runoff. the problem was where it got really swampy, you couldn't tell if it was going to drop off. so we'd marked the depths very scientifically (birch branch) and were sending up 10ft waves of mud and algae and all kinds of alberta pond scum ripping through it. then this guy decides he's got the loudest truck so he doesn't have to stick to the "beaten" trail. so where we'd all been pulling out of the swamp onto drier land, he keeps going. with a rev and a shit-eating grin, he flies past where i'm holding a camera making vids of everyone else pulling out of the water, and heads off into pure swamp. makes it about... ohhh 20 meters... maybe 30... and then his front end sinks. the beast lurches to a halt. and keeps sinking. the slough went from just licking his running boards, to almost up to his windows in a few seconds. then we hear the engine sputter... sputter, wheeze, and drown. we're screaming and whooping and hoping nobody in the cab got hurt. the vid is wrecked because i was laughing so hard i couldn't stand. then the guy in the back cab rolls down the window and hollers "get me out of this idiot's shitbox, i'm getting soggy". so they climb out the window into the bed, pull the driver's shirt over his head and shove him straight into the mud, then have to strip to their skivs to wade out through the leeches. our jeep was the heaviest, with the best winch and cable, but a heavy ram plus waterweight? we weren't going to bust our equipment fishing for douchemobiles. so the salt in his wounds was calling up the AMA and having to pay for a service vehicle to come offroading to our location, fish out his truck, drowned hemi and all, and tow it back to civilization. $10,000 later, he had a whole new engine put in and the bills paid off. he spent the rest of the weekend going through 24-packs like a proper east-coaster and masturbating with his tears (that's why offroading is better with a girlfriend in tow... tent sex... no cry faps, even if you kill your truck).
the end!
^haha sounds like the wiring to the floods we did. they weren't working properly with the high-beams so we wired it to an improvised light switch in the cab, and kept it taped under the dashboard. classy. RIP ranger sounds like a sweet ride while it lasted.
we went with the same crew most trips, which included a ranger, an escape, a sierra, a couple of rams, a tj, another cherokee, and a pathfinder... so of course nobody could ever agree on which brand of truck was superior. one of my favourite offroading stories was when this tried-and-true fuckup we knew through the army had just bought himself a big black brand-new ram with the 5.7 hemi and was ready to show off. we were taking turns bogging an improvised loop route through some foothills marshland that was flooded and muddy from the spring runoff. the problem was where it got really swampy, you couldn't tell if it was going to drop off. so we'd marked the depths very scientifically (birch branch) and were sending up 10ft waves of mud and algae and all kinds of alberta pond scum ripping through it. then this guy decides he's got the loudest truck so he doesn't have to stick to the "beaten" trail. so where we'd all been pulling out of the swamp onto drier land, he keeps going. with a rev and a shit-eating grin, he flies past where i'm holding a camera making vids of everyone else pulling out of the water, and heads off into pure swamp. makes it about... ohhh 20 meters... maybe 30... and then his front end sinks. the beast lurches to a halt. and keeps sinking. the slough went from just licking his running boards, to almost up to his windows in a few seconds. then we hear the engine sputter... sputter, wheeze, and drown. we're screaming and whooping and hoping nobody in the cab got hurt. the vid is wrecked because i was laughing so hard i couldn't stand. then the guy in the back cab rolls down the window and hollers "get me out of this idiot's shitbox, i'm getting soggy". so they climb out the window into the bed, pull the driver's shirt over his head and shove him straight into the mud, then have to strip to their skivs to wade out through the leeches. our jeep was the heaviest, with the best winch and cable, but a heavy ram plus waterweight? we weren't going to bust our equipment fishing for douchemobiles. so the salt in his wounds was calling up the AMA and having to pay for a service vehicle to come offroading to our location, fish out his truck, drowned hemi and all, and tow it back to civilization. $10,000 later, he had a whole new engine put in and the bills paid off. he spent the rest of the weekend going through 24-packs like a proper east-coaster and masturbating with his tears (that's why offroading is better with a girlfriend in tow... tent sex... no cry faps, even if you kill your truck).
^ LOL as much as I love dodges, a lot of the fanboys that own RAMs have serious IQ deficiency or making up for something they're short on lol.
Our group was my ranger, an 05 blazer, an 06 blazer, a 91 Cherokee, Chevy Silverado 1500, and giant 88 blazer shop truck for back up (lol). Growing up in the North we didn't have many places to go and not many wet places aside from the melted permafrost going north that we can find just outisde the train tracks going to Churchill, and then the big pit as I explained last time that is actually a sanctioned offroad course owned by a rich local contracting company.
In one outing, we were all taking turns in the pit going up the "ramp" we called it. It was literally a 40 foot high, 70-75 degree incline with a rounded off lip of the top of the pit from the bottom of the pit, literally going from inside to outside in one go. It was a pretty tough jump for guys that didn't have the tires or the power (my old 3.0L couldn't do it and I nearly lost my whole rear end trying lol) but everyone came prepared. The tires were the most important to be honest. The regular grouping i mentioned all made it up fine everytime, was always a blast giving it everything you had, getting it into high rpms on 2nd and ripping back into first when you hit the incline, all you'd see is dirt, then stars, some trees and ground coming closer, and then you'd practically lose your tailbone and crush all your seats, especially me in my little ranger LOL. One time this guy we knew named steve brought his 89 S10 4.3L (piece of shit, muffler was hanging off). And he ran that little shit box right from the top of the other side, straight down, and hit that incline doing probably 140 kmh and on the way up tore his rear axle out, both front wheels popped like a pringles lid when you squeeze the package. He slid nearly the whole length of that hill and made it to the top with no tires and pure undercarriage, truck was toast after that haha.
One of the funniest adventures is when we were going to permafrost areas during summer. It's disgusting in those areas, the permafrost melts and makes these pseudo-marshes that are nothing but weeds, moss, water, mudd, tall grass, willows and bushes with the odd animal carcass buried in. The two blazer's led the way, they were both lifted up with huge tires on them, followed by me, the silverado, and the cherokee. We made it about a KM in just before our turn to a dirt road by the ski hill when the front blazer turned in the wrong spot and got stuck, we all slowed down, and eventually ALL of us got stuck. My buddy had to track to the road, and walk back to the Chevy dealership where my buddies all worked and grabbed the big 88 Blazer shop truck. It was outfitted with a 6.0L and a huge pulling system, the narstiest frame stiffening you've ever seen too. He drove in and met us the way we came in, and by that time we had the trucks all hooked up with our chains, and he simply hooked up his huge ass chain, and pulled every single fucking one of us a full kilometer back the way we came. We were all just laughing at this 88 blazer pulling 5 vehicles behind it through 3 feet of permafrost-mud.
Yeah, i missed out on more good times after I got the car lol
^ LOL as much as I love dodges, a lot of the fanboys that own RAMs have serious IQ deficiency or making up for something they're short on lol.
Our group was my ranger, an 05 blazer, an 06 blazer, a 91 Cherokee, Chevy Silverado 1500, and giant 88 blazer shop truck for back up (lol). Growing up in the North we didn't have many places to go and not many wet places aside from the melted permafrost going north that we can find just outisde the train tracks going to Churchill, and then the big pit as I explained last time that is actually a sanctioned offroad course owned by a rich local contracting company.
In one outing, we were all taking turns in the pit going up the "ramp" we called it. It was literally a 40 foot high, 70-75 degree incline with a rounded off lip of the top of the pit from the bottom of the pit, literally going from inside to outside in one go. It was a pretty tough jump for guys that didn't have the tires or the power (my old 3.0L couldn't do it and I nearly lost my whole rear end trying lol) but everyone came prepared. The tires were the most important to be honest. The regular grouping i mentioned all made it up fine everytime, was always a blast giving it everything you had, getting it into high rpms on 2nd and ripping back into first when you hit the incline, all you'd see is dirt, then stars, some trees and ground coming closer, and then you'd practically lose your tailbone and crush all your seats, especially me in my little ranger LOL. One time this guy we knew named steve brought his 89 S10 4.3L (piece of shit, muffler was hanging off). And he ran that little shit box right from the top of the other side, straight down, and hit that incline doing probably 140 kmh and on the way up tore his rear axle out, both front wheels popped like a pringles lid when you squeeze the package. He slid nearly the whole length of that hill and made it to the top with no tires and pure undercarriage, truck was toast after that haha.
One of the funniest adventures is when we were going to permafrost areas during summer. It's disgusting in those areas, the permafrost melts and makes these pseudo-marshes that are nothing but weeds, moss, water, mudd, tall grass, willows and bushes with the odd animal carcass buried in. The two blazer's led the way, they were both lifted up with huge tires on them, followed by me, the silverado, and the cherokee. We made it about a KM in just before our turn to a dirt road by the ski hill when the front blazer turned in the wrong spot and got stuck, we all slowed down, and eventually ALL of us got stuck. My buddy had to track to the road, and walk back to the Chevy dealership where my buddies all worked and grabbed the big 88 Blazer shop truck. It was outfitted with a 6.0L and a huge pulling system, the narstiest frame stiffening you've ever seen too. He drove in and met us the way we came in, and by that time we had the trucks all hooked up with our chains, and he simply hooked up his huge ass chain, and pulled every single fucking one of us a full kilometer back the way we came. We were all just laughing at this 88 blazer pulling 5 vehicles behind it through 3 feet of permafrost-mud.
Yeah, i missed out on more good times after I got the car lol
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so says a fellow conspiracy theorist, crackpot, tinfoil hat wearing dumbass..........."oh my we had less snow one year, and yeah remember when we had to turn that air conditioner on for a week in the summer...........omg they said global warming was happening on the news" you fools take the bait, hook line and sinker.........don't worry i'll drain my oil in the storm drain again next time with your name on it so i can contaminate some 20 million litres of fresh water, just because you're an enviro-geek-conspiracy theorist
fuckyoutan wrote:
mmateri wrote:
aka conspiracy theorists
says a fatass forum troll(mmateri) defending a juvenile-minded conspiracy theorist(wolffe)
so says a fellow conspiracy theorist, crackpot, tinfoil hat wearing dumbass..........."oh my we had less snow one year, and yeah remember when we had to turn that air conditioner on for a week in the summer...........omg they said global warming was happening on the news" you fools take the bait, hook line and sinker.........don't worry i'll drain my oil in the storm drain again next time with your name on it so i can contaminate some 20 million litres of fresh water, just because you're an enviro-geek-conspiracy theorist
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yup.. this one's betterer..
not much difference between 18 and 24 mpg anyway and the extra space is nice.. especially during carcoital maneuvers,
yup.. this one's betterer..
not much difference between 18 and 24 mpg anyway and the extra space is nice.. especially during carcoital maneuvers,
if i were going to get another truck it'd be another toyota... used to co-own a tacoma trd offroad. that was a great truck. sigghhh...
if i were going to get another truck it'd be another toyota... used to co-own a tacoma trd offroad. that was a great truck. sigghhh...
yup.. this one's betterer..
not much difference between 18 and 24 mpg anyway and the extra space is nice.. especially during carcoital maneuvers,
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lol mac, that's a pretty bad comparison being 3 classes apart. Light duty is not Full-size, or even mid-size (Colorado, Canyon, Dakota) for that matter.
And actually being 14mpg as per Chevy, that is a huge fucking difference, verified by myself (I don't own one just have driven many) and a few friends that own some. They've never seen over 13 mpg, even with the wind.
yup.. this one's betterer..
not much difference between 18 and 24 mpg anyway and the extra space is nice.. especially during carcoital maneuvers,
lol mac, that's a pretty bad comparison being 3 classes apart. Light duty is not Full-size, or even mid-size (Colorado, Canyon, Dakota) for that matter.
And actually being 14mpg as per Chevy, that is a huge fucking difference, verified by myself (I don't own one just have driven many) and a few friends that own some. They've never seen over 13 mpg, even with the wind.
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that's nice, i'll take something smaller and super reliable any day. You are forgetting that i simply don't give a fuck what any of your gender could possibly think of my vehicle.
You see, I buy vehicles based on practical need and ability, not some inane sense of whats cool and trendy.
Then again, you're pretty young so I don't balme you for thinking that way. Similarly in the way you cannot blame a dog when it goes bezerk; it hasn't been trained properly.
that's nice, i'll take something smaller and super reliable any day. You are forgetting that i simply don't give a fuck what any of your gender could possibly think of my vehicle.
You see, I buy vehicles based on practical need and ability, not some inane sense of whats cool and trendy.
Then again, you're pretty young so I don't balme you for thinking that way. Similarly in the way you cannot blame a dog when it goes bezerk; it hasn't been trained properly.
that's nice, i'll take something smaller and super reliable any day. You are forgetting that i simply don't give a fuck what any of your gender could possibly think of my vehicle.
You see, I buy vehicles based on practical need and ability, not some inane sense of whats cool and trendy.
Then again, you're pretty young so I don't balme you for thinking that way. Similarly in the way you cannot blame a dog when it goes bezerk; it hasn't been trained properly.
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Shortbox and practical need do not go together. If you NEED a truck you get one with a full-sized box, otherwise you're just another city-hillbilly posing as someone who actually does manual labour.
that's nice, i'll take something smaller and super reliable any day. You are forgetting that i simply don't give a fuck what any of your gender could possibly think of my vehicle.
You see, I buy vehicles based on practical need and ability, not some inane sense of whats cool and trendy.
Then again, you're pretty young so I don't balme you for thinking that way. Similarly in the way you cannot blame a dog when it goes bezerk; it hasn't been trained properly.
Shortbox and practical need do not go together. If you NEED a truck you get one with a full-sized box, otherwise you're just another city-hillbilly posing as someone who actually does manual labour.
Trucks are for work, not driving.
Trucks are for work, not driving.
that's nice, i'll take something smaller and super reliable any day. You are forgetting that i simply don't give a fuck what any of your gender could possibly think of my vehicle.
You see, I buy vehicles based on practical need and ability, not some inane sense of whats cool and trendy.
Then again, you're pretty young so I don't balme you for thinking that way. Similarly in the way you cannot blame a dog when it goes bezerk; it hasn't been trained properly.
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that's nice, i'll take something smaller and super reliable any day. You are forgetting that i simply don't give a fuck what any of your gender could possibly think of my vehicle.
You see, I buy vehicles based on practical need and ability, not some inane sense of whats cool and trendy.
Then again, you're pretty young so I don't balme you for thinking that way. Similarly in the way you cannot blame a dog when it goes bezerk; it hasn't been trained properly.
me likey dis one. as for MPG i've gotten around 22- 23 with good driving habits. 16-18 when i revved it up too much
me likey dis one. as for MPG i've gotten around 22- 23 with good driving habits. 16-18 when i revved it up too much
as for 4wd in the style of leisure i see lots of old land- and range rovers, suzukis and toyotas tho. i'd think it'd grip slightly better with a bit more than a sheet metal box resting on the rear end.
this too might be a part of the cultural conspiracy and whatnot
as for 4wd in the style of leisure i see lots of old land- and range rovers, suzukis and toyotas tho. i'd think it'd grip slightly better with a bit more than a sheet metal box resting on the rear end.
this too might be a part of the cultural conspiracy and whatnot
Trucks are for work, not driving.
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So everyone should own a car, and when there is that need to move an option bigger than our vehicle we should just shell out and order some delivery company to pick it up? Or how about we just own a nice mileage vehicle that you can fit a queen size mattress into on angle and move your own apartment by your damned self! What about the next weekend when your other buddy needs stuff moved... should he just shell out for the delivery company or should you load his stuff up and help out like a manly friend?
Plus, i thought you were from finland.... don't you fuckers get snow up there? Probably not, seeing how you don't see a 4WD Truck as practical in a northern country...... where they are the most practical vehicles on the road, especially these shit roads in Canada, where wolffe will be driving. His previous solicitation charges are keeping him in the country.
Trucks are for work, not driving.
So everyone should own a car, and when there is that need to move an option bigger than our vehicle we should just shell out and order some delivery company to pick it up? Or how about we just own a nice mileage vehicle that you can fit a queen size mattress into on angle and move your own apartment by your damned self! What about the next weekend when your other buddy needs stuff moved... should he just shell out for the delivery company or should you load his stuff up and help out like a manly friend?
Plus, i thought you were from finland.... don't you fuckers get snow up there? Probably not, seeing how you don't see a 4WD Truck as practical in a northern country...... where they are the most practical vehicles on the road, especially these shit roads in Canada, where wolffe will be driving. His previous solicitation charges are keeping him in the country.
Plus, i thought you were from finland.... don't you fuckers get snow up there? Probably not, seeing how you don't see a 4WD Truck as practical in a northern country...... where they are the most practical vehicles on the road, especially these shit roads in Canada, where wolffe will be driving. His previous solicitation charges are keeping him in the country.
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I don't know about you, but we plow and maintain our roads. There's no real need for 4wd, unless you really need it for something like work (fire fighter, police, other emergency, towing, forestry, some delivery, etc.). You'd also be amazed at how much you can cram into a compact car ... and when that's not enough, you just hook up your trailer.
If all comes to worst, there's tractors pulling a trailer, or even borrowing a real truck (as in 6 or more wheels) from work, or even renting. It's not that common though.
Outside of work, there aren't that many (personal car) trucks. Actually, there aren't that many trucks at all. Vans, semivans, jeeps, minijeeps, some SUVs ... but very few trucks. Even with a hardcore hunter you're much more likely to see them in a jap/volvo station wagon pulling a trailer than in a truck. Overall, I think there are far more tractors than trucks in Finland. Even more real trucks (as in 6 or more wheels) than (personal car) trucks.
Plus, i thought you were from finland.... don't you fuckers get snow up there? Probably not, seeing how you don't see a 4WD Truck as practical in a northern country...... where they are the most practical vehicles on the road, especially these shit roads in Canada, where wolffe will be driving. His previous solicitation charges are keeping him in the country.
I don't know about you, but we plow and maintain our roads. There's no real need for 4wd, unless you really need it for something like work (fire fighter, police, other emergency, towing, forestry, some delivery, etc.). You'd also be amazed at how much you can cram into a compact car ... and when that's not enough, you just hook up your trailer.
If all comes to worst, there's tractors pulling a trailer, or even borrowing a real truck (as in 6 or more wheels) from work, or even renting. It's not that common though.
Outside of work, there aren't that many (personal car) trucks. Actually, there aren't that many trucks at all. Vans, semivans, jeeps, minijeeps, some SUVs ... but very few trucks. Even with a hardcore hunter you're much more likely to see them in a jap/volvo station wagon pulling a trailer than in a truck. Overall, I think there are far more tractors than trucks in Finland. Even more real trucks (as in 6 or more wheels) than (personal car) trucks.
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I don't know about you, but we plow and maintain our roads. There's no real need for 4wd, unless you really need it for something like work (fire fighter, police, other emergency, towing, forestry, some delivery, etc.). You'd also be amazed at how much you can cram into a compact car ... and when that's not enough, you just hook up your trailer.
If all comes to worst, there's tractors pulling a trailer, or even borrowing a real truck (as in 6 or more wheels) from work, or even renting. It's not that common though.
Outside of work, there aren't that many (personal car) trucks. Actually, there aren't that many trucks at all. Vans, semivans, jeeps, minijeeps, some SUVs ... but very few trucks. Even with a hardcore hunter you're much more likely to see them in a jap/volvo station wagon pulling a trailer than in a truck. Overall, I think there are far more tractors than trucks in Finland. Even more real trucks (as in 6 or more wheels) than (personal car) trucks.
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I'd bet you I can fit more in the cab of a quad cab ranger than any of your shit can compacts. Then there's the box... no comparison.
All I can say is, you guys must not get a lot of snow. Ever go three weeks where you're pounded by a foot of snow during the night? Ever try to drive to work over highways with 4 foot tall snow drifts? Have you ever attempted to drive in these conditions with a fucking tin can? Have you ever had to drive down unmaintained roads to job sites through 3-4 feet of snow? Do you think a car would make it? There is your reasoning for why so many canadians have 4x4 equipped trucks sitting in their driveways.
What the fuck is the point of owning a car with a trailer when you can have a truck? What is the point of possibly damaging/mangling your car's frame because you have absolutely no trailer sway or balancing system? Why not just have a nice, fuel efficient vehicle that can literally go anywhere that has solid ground and won't risk damaging it by hooking up needless trailers? Do you prefer to be that asshole driving 40 km under the speed limit because your vehicle isn't properly equipped to manage the load?
Yeah, i'd rather have all that I need sitting in my driveway, which can double as a daily driver as well. In terms of vehicle needs, I can do whatever the fuck i'd want to, whever the fuck I'd want to do it. Freedom? Trucks.
I don't know about you, but we plow and maintain our roads. There's no real need for 4wd, unless you really need it for something like work (fire fighter, police, other emergency, towing, forestry, some delivery, etc.). You'd also be amazed at how much you can cram into a compact car ... and when that's not enough, you just hook up your trailer.
If all comes to worst, there's tractors pulling a trailer, or even borrowing a real truck (as in 6 or more wheels) from work, or even renting. It's not that common though.
Outside of work, there aren't that many (personal car) trucks. Actually, there aren't that many trucks at all. Vans, semivans, jeeps, minijeeps, some SUVs ... but very few trucks. Even with a hardcore hunter you're much more likely to see them in a jap/volvo station wagon pulling a trailer than in a truck. Overall, I think there are far more tractors than trucks in Finland. Even more real trucks (as in 6 or more wheels) than (personal car) trucks.
I'd bet you I can fit more in the cab of a quad cab ranger than any of your shit can compacts. Then there's the box... no comparison.
All I can say is, you guys must not get a lot of snow. Ever go three weeks where you're pounded by a foot of snow during the night? Ever try to drive to work over highways with 4 foot tall snow drifts? Have you ever attempted to drive in these conditions with a fucking tin can? Have you ever had to drive down unmaintained roads to job sites through 3-4 feet of snow? Do you think a car would make it? There is your reasoning for why so many canadians have 4x4 equipped trucks sitting in their driveways.
What the fuck is the point of owning a car with a trailer when you can have a truck? What is the point of possibly damaging/mangling your car's frame because you have absolutely no trailer sway or balancing system? Why not just have a nice, fuel efficient vehicle that can literally go anywhere that has solid ground and won't risk damaging it by hooking up needless trailers? Do you prefer to be that asshole driving 40 km under the speed limit because your vehicle isn't properly equipped to manage the load?
Yeah, i'd rather have all that I need sitting in my driveway, which can double as a daily driver as well. In terms of vehicle needs, I can do whatever the fuck i'd want to, whever the fuck I'd want to do it. Freedom? Trucks.
Just needs bigger rims and nicer O/R rubber and that cocksucker will go through anything
Just needs bigger rims and nicer O/R rubber and that cocksucker will go through anything
I'd bet you I can fit more in the cab of a quad cab ranger than any of your shit can compacts. Then there's the box... no comparison.
All I can say is, you guys must not get a lot of snow. Ever go three weeks where you're pounded by a foot of snow during the night? Ever try to drive to work over highways with 4 foot tall snow drifts? Have you ever attempted to drive in these conditions with a fucking tin can? Have you ever had to drive down unmaintained roads to job sites through 3-4 feet of snow? Do you think a car would make it? There is your reasoning for why so many canadians have 4x4 equipped trucks sitting in their driveways.
What the fuck is the point of owning a car with a trailer when you can have a truck? What is the point of possibly damaging/mangling your car's frame because you have absolutely no trailer sway or balancing system? Why not just have a nice, fuel efficient vehicle that can literally go anywhere that has solid ground and won't risk damaging it by hooking up needless trailers? Do you prefer to be that asshole driving 40 km under the speed limit because your vehicle isn't properly equipped to manage the load?
Yeah, i'd rather have all that I need sitting in my driveway, which can double as a daily driver as well. In terms of vehicle needs, I can do whatever the fuck i'd want to, whever the fuck I'd want to do it. Freedom? Trucks.
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you are derping a bit here now, proofinlife. you are actually doubting the amount of snow that falls in the nordic regions, just because we utilise trailers and hangers instead of trucks and pickups and other 4wd vehicles of equal nature. if you're out to discredit nordics just because we prefer volvos to these trucks and pickups, there is no discussion here, it'll just be buffaloes headbutting.
I'd bet you I can fit more in the cab of a quad cab ranger than any of your shit can compacts. Then there's the box... no comparison.
All I can say is, you guys must not get a lot of snow. Ever go three weeks where you're pounded by a foot of snow during the night? Ever try to drive to work over highways with 4 foot tall snow drifts? Have you ever attempted to drive in these conditions with a fucking tin can? Have you ever had to drive down unmaintained roads to job sites through 3-4 feet of snow? Do you think a car would make it? There is your reasoning for why so many canadians have 4x4 equipped trucks sitting in their driveways.
What the fuck is the point of owning a car with a trailer when you can have a truck? What is the point of possibly damaging/mangling your car's frame because you have absolutely no trailer sway or balancing system? Why not just have a nice, fuel efficient vehicle that can literally go anywhere that has solid ground and won't risk damaging it by hooking up needless trailers? Do you prefer to be that asshole driving 40 km under the speed limit because your vehicle isn't properly equipped to manage the load?
Yeah, i'd rather have all that I need sitting in my driveway, which can double as a daily driver as well. In terms of vehicle needs, I can do whatever the fuck i'd want to, whever the fuck I'd want to do it. Freedom? Trucks.
you are derping a bit here now, proofinlife. you are actually doubting the amount of snow that falls in the nordic regions, just because we utilise trailers and hangers instead of trucks and pickups and other 4wd vehicles of equal nature. if you're out to discredit nordics just because we prefer volvos to these trucks and pickups, there is no discussion here, it'll just be buffaloes headbutting.
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Then where the fuck did jazz come from?
Then where the fuck did jazz come from?
you are derping a bit here now, proofinlife. you are actually doubting the amount of snow that falls in the nordic regions, just because we utilise trailers and hangers instead of trucks and pickups and other 4wd vehicles of equal nature. if you're out to discredit nordics just because we prefer volvos to these trucks and pickups, there is no discussion here, it'll just be buffaloes headbutting.
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Then what do you nords use for deep snow private road access? Snowmobiles and toboggans? Cross-Country skiis? Dog Sleds? Seriously.... it's not like there isn't private property in any of the Scandinavian countries that isn't covered with snow because the owner doesn't maintain... that, or you truly don't get as much snow as you'd like to think you do.
The only good Land/Range Rovers were pre-2008 Ford Era, now they're indian built curry bombs that can't hold up in the cold even as well as a piece of shit hyundai. When they bought them from Ford they should have atleast made a deal for some of those cold weather testing data sheets, would've helped a lot with Northern Canadian sales... which they are about as reliable as a Hyndai in terms of actually being able to start in the winter since the sale.
you are derping a bit here now, proofinlife. you are actually doubting the amount of snow that falls in the nordic regions, just because we utilise trailers and hangers instead of trucks and pickups and other 4wd vehicles of equal nature. if you're out to discredit nordics just because we prefer volvos to these trucks and pickups, there is no discussion here, it'll just be buffaloes headbutting.
Then what do you nords use for deep snow private road access? Snowmobiles and toboggans? Cross-Country skiis? Dog Sleds? Seriously.... it's not like there isn't private property in any of the Scandinavian countries that isn't covered with snow because the owner doesn't maintain... that, or you truly don't get as much snow as you'd like to think you do.
The only good Land/Range Rovers were pre-2008 Ford Era, now they're indian built curry bombs that can't hold up in the cold even as well as a piece of shit hyundai. When they bought them from Ford they should have atleast made a deal for some of those cold weather testing data sheets, would've helped a lot with Northern Canadian sales... which they are about as reliable as a Hyndai in terms of actually being able to start in the winter since the sale.
as for the land rovers i suppose only time will tell if the new ones are as good as the 90s ones, cos the 70s/80s range rovers were fairly crappy. the land rover discovery has proven to be a very reliable vehicle, but still, these are cars outside the normal family's price range. the older ones are what people use for leisure 4wd, here examplified by an aquaintance of mine and his group of hobby 4 wheel drivers!~
i guess what i'm saying is while trucks have a proven capacity, i'm not arguing that at all, there is also room for ordinary cars, and a problem free winter for them. brush off the snow and go. besides, where there's displacement tax, environmental/mpg tax, weight tax and horsepower tax, i suppose it'd be cheaper buying a 160 hp diesel station wagon and a trailer than a 5/6 seater truck.
as for the land rovers i suppose only time will tell if the new ones are as good as the 90s ones, cos the 70s/80s range rovers were fairly crappy. the land rover discovery has proven to be a very reliable vehicle, but still, these are cars outside the normal family's price range. the older ones are what people use for leisure 4wd, examplified by an aquaintance of mine and his group of hobby 4 wheel drivers!~
i guess what i'm saying is while trucks have a proven capacity, i'm not arguing that at all, there is also room for ordinary cars, and a problem free winter for them. brush off the snow and go. besides, where there's displacement tax, environmental/mpg tax, weight tax and horsepower tax, i suppose it'd be cheaper buying a 160 hp diesel station wagon and a trailer than a 5/6 seater truck.
Found this on youtube by searching for ford ranger offroad winter :
This is actually how our backroads look during a normal winter, every night even after plowing.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH_Ta8rqZ5s[/video]
This winter has been disgustingly warm, and in the last 3 days we've gotten 3 feet of snow, and that's 99% of the snow that has hit all winter. Very odd weather indeed.
That little ranger was making it through no problem, not many cars could make it through that. Now imagine a big truck in the same conditions :
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-5wX0-Ytio&feature=related[/video]
And that is how us canadians like to play in the winter.
Found this on youtube by searching for ford ranger offroad winter :
This is actually how our backroads look during a normal winter, every night even after plowing.
This winter has been disgustingly warm, and in the last 3 days we've gotten 3 feet of snow, and that's 99% of the snow that has hit all winter. Very odd weather indeed.
That little ranger was making it through no problem, not many cars could make it through that. Now imagine a big truck in the same conditions :
And that is how us canadians like to play in the winter.
... and wolffe says i'm just in it for the "trendy and cool". pfft. whiny little faggot deserves the ugly gutless shortbox.
... and wolffe says i'm just in it for the "trendy and cool". pfft. whiny little faggot deserves the ugly gutless shortbox.
Found this on youtube by searching for ford ranger offroad winter :
This is actually how our backroads look during a normal winter, every night even after plowing.
This winter has been disgustingly warm, and in the last 3 days we've gotten 3 feet of snow, and that's 99% of the snow that has hit all winter. Very odd weather indeed.
That little ranger was making it through no problem, not many cars could make it through that. Now imagine a big truck in the same conditions :
And that is how us canadians like to play in the winter.
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Found this on youtube by searching for ford ranger offroad winter :
This is actually how our backroads look during a normal winter, every night even after plowing.
This winter has been disgustingly warm, and in the last 3 days we've gotten 3 feet of snow, and that's 99% of the snow that has hit all winter. Very odd weather indeed.
That little ranger was making it through no problem, not many cars could make it through that. Now imagine a big truck in the same conditions :
And that is how us canadians like to play in the winter.
... and wolffe says i'm just in it for the "trendy and cool". pfft. whiny little faggot deserves the ugly gutless shortbox.
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Marry me. Now.
I jest.
Back in 03 I had myself a 2 wheel drive ranger converted 4wd (shortbox with 4WD and 4.0L), it was a BEAST! Originally it was only two wheel drive, and with my ol' goodyears on there I used to fly by everyone stuck in the mud at the offroad pit (we call it there, it's a big pit with different levels so you can take jumps or wall-crawl, w/e). But then I cracked my 3.0L block, and we dropped my buddy's '02 4.0L and it's tranny, my buddy joe pulled Einstein and fitted a transfer case from a completely different vehicle (I think it was an explorer) to my tranny and ran everything like a pro. He rebuilt it for me and it was better than the original "exploder" transfer case. The only ugly part was that it was electronic engage, so i had to run the explorer 4x4 panel to the side of my ranger's deck/climate control/fans. It looked hella tacky, but it worked lol. I probably could've just made my own switch, but I idgaf lol
Then I crashed into the side of a building one night trying to stop on bloody shear ice and smashed the front end to pieces. Autopac (insurance) wouldn't cover it, so i had to kiss my baby goodbye :( So now I've got my grand prix, definitely a kick in the ass from having a truck, I miss being able to throw freshly chopped wood in the back of my truck and heading out to a weekend beerfest at the local lake.
I will be getting myself a truck soon, again, though. I won't be buying brand new because I fucking hate warranty and would rather work on or by everything myself than rely on shit OEM hardware. It'll either be a Ford F-150 SHO or a Dodge Ram 1500 (not sure which one yet). Really it's just down to the price, and dodge keeps putting out nice sales that dips that leather interior heated seats 4x4 monster 5 or 6,000 below that Ford's sticker price.
But, to be honest, me and my buddy trade our vehicles all the fucking time. He had my car for a whole month while he was down south for work last winter so I had his F-150 Baja Raptor for a whole month....heheheheehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe. I did have to buy him a new tire ($700 bucks wtf?!?!) because I completely ripped the tire in half taking a jump across a back road lol
I do miss the ol' ranger tho. The most epic part about that truck had nothing to do with the truck's abilities at all. It was the fact that back when I had it I used to do a shit tonne of weight training, so I was this 6'6 musclebound freak driving this single cab stick shift ranger. I used to get a lot of epic thumbs up from guys around town not because the truck was cool or powerful for it's size, but because I literally filled the whole front seat up because of my shoulders lol.
... and wolffe says i'm just in it for the "trendy and cool". pfft. whiny little faggot deserves the ugly gutless shortbox.
Marry me. Now.
I jest.
Back in 03 I had myself a 2 wheel drive ranger converted 4wd (shortbox with 4WD and 4.0L), it was a BEAST! Originally it was only two wheel drive, and with my ol' goodyears on there I used to fly by everyone stuck in the mud at the offroad pit (we call it there, it's a big pit with different levels so you can take jumps or wall-crawl, w/e). But then I cracked my 3.0L block, and we dropped my buddy's '02 4.0L and it's tranny, my buddy joe pulled Einstein and fitted a transfer case from a completely different vehicle (I think it was an explorer) to my tranny and ran everything like a pro. He rebuilt it for me and it was better than the original "exploder" transfer case. The only ugly part was that it was electronic engage, so i had to run the explorer 4x4 panel to the side of my ranger's deck/climate control/fans. It looked hella tacky, but it worked lol. I probably could've just made my own switch, but I idgaf lol
Then I crashed into the side of a building one night trying to stop on bloody shear ice and smashed the front end to pieces. Autopac (insurance) wouldn't cover it, so i had to kiss my baby goodbye
I will be getting myself a truck soon, again, though. I won't be buying brand new because I fucking hate warranty and would rather work on or by everything myself than rely on shit OEM hardware. It'll either be a Ford F-150 SHO or a Dodge Ram 1500 (not sure which one yet). Really it's just down to the price, and dodge keeps putting out nice sales that dips that leather interior heated seats 4x4 monster 5 or 6,000 below that Ford's sticker price.
But, to be honest, me and my buddy trade our vehicles all the fucking time. He had my car for a whole month while he was down south for work last winter so I had his F-150 Baja Raptor for a whole month....heheheheehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe. I did have to buy him a new tire ($700 bucks wtf?!?!) because I completely ripped the tire in half taking a jump across a back road lol
I do miss the ol' ranger tho. The most epic part about that truck had nothing to do with the truck's abilities at all. It was the fact that back when I had it I used to do a shit tonne of weight training, so I was this 6'6 musclebound freak driving this single cab stick shift ranger. I used to get a lot of epic thumbs up from guys around town not because the truck was cool or powerful for it's size, but because I literally filled the whole front seat up because of my shoulders lol.
we went with the same crew most trips, which included a ranger, an escape, a sierra, a couple of rams, a tj, another cherokee, and a pathfinder... so of course nobody could ever agree on which brand of truck was superior. one of my favourite offroading stories was when this tried-and-true fuckup we knew through the army had just bought himself a big black brand-new ram with the 5.7 hemi and was ready to show off. we were taking turns bogging an improvised loop route through some foothills marshland that was flooded and muddy from the spring runoff. the problem was where it got really swampy, you couldn't tell if it was going to drop off. so we'd marked the depths very scientifically (birch branch) and were sending up 10ft waves of mud and algae and all kinds of alberta pond scum ripping through it. then this guy decides he's got the loudest truck so he doesn't have to stick to the "beaten" trail. so where we'd all been pulling out of the swamp onto drier land, he keeps going. with a rev and a shit-eating grin, he flies past where i'm holding a camera making vids of everyone else pulling out of the water, and heads off into pure swamp. makes it about... ohhh 20 meters... maybe 30... and then his front end sinks. the beast lurches to a halt. and keeps sinking. the slough went from just licking his running boards, to almost up to his windows in a few seconds. then we hear the engine sputter... sputter, wheeze, and drown. we're screaming and whooping and hoping nobody in the cab got hurt. the vid is wrecked because i was laughing so hard i couldn't stand. then the guy in the back cab rolls down the window and hollers "get me out of this idiot's shitbox, i'm getting soggy". so they climb out the window into the bed, pull the driver's shirt over his head and shove him straight into the mud, then have to strip to their skivs to wade out through the leeches. our jeep was the heaviest, with the best winch and cable, but a heavy ram plus waterweight? we weren't going to bust our equipment fishing for douchemobiles. so the salt in his wounds was calling up the AMA and having to pay for a service vehicle to come offroading to our location, fish out his truck, drowned hemi and all, and tow it back to civilization. $10,000 later, he had a whole new engine put in and the bills paid off. he spent the rest of the weekend going through 24-packs like a proper east-coaster and masturbating with his tears (that's why offroading is better with a girlfriend in tow... tent sex... no cry faps, even if you kill your truck).
the end!
we went with the same crew most trips, which included a ranger, an escape, a sierra, a couple of rams, a tj, another cherokee, and a pathfinder... so of course nobody could ever agree on which brand of truck was superior. one of my favourite offroading stories was when this tried-and-true fuckup we knew through the army had just bought himself a big black brand-new ram with the 5.7 hemi and was ready to show off. we were taking turns bogging an improvised loop route through some foothills marshland that was flooded and muddy from the spring runoff. the problem was where it got really swampy, you couldn't tell if it was going to drop off. so we'd marked the depths very scientifically (birch branch) and were sending up 10ft waves of mud and algae and all kinds of alberta pond scum ripping through it. then this guy decides he's got the loudest truck so he doesn't have to stick to the "beaten" trail. so where we'd all been pulling out of the swamp onto drier land, he keeps going. with a rev and a shit-eating grin, he flies past where i'm holding a camera making vids of everyone else pulling out of the water, and heads off into pure swamp. makes it about... ohhh 20 meters... maybe 30... and then his front end sinks. the beast lurches to a halt. and keeps sinking. the slough went from just licking his running boards, to almost up to his windows in a few seconds. then we hear the engine sputter... sputter, wheeze, and drown. we're screaming and whooping and hoping nobody in the cab got hurt. the vid is wrecked because i was laughing so hard i couldn't stand. then the guy in the back cab rolls down the window and hollers "get me out of this idiot's shitbox, i'm getting soggy". so they climb out the window into the bed, pull the driver's shirt over his head and shove him straight into the mud, then have to strip to their skivs to wade out through the leeches. our jeep was the heaviest, with the best winch and cable, but a heavy ram plus waterweight? we weren't going to bust our equipment fishing for douchemobiles. so the salt in his wounds was calling up the AMA and having to pay for a service vehicle to come offroading to our location, fish out his truck, drowned hemi and all, and tow it back to civilization. $10,000 later, he had a whole new engine put in and the bills paid off. he spent the rest of the weekend going through 24-packs like a proper east-coaster and masturbating with his tears (that's why offroading is better with a girlfriend in tow... tent sex... no cry faps, even if you kill your truck).
the end!
Our group was my ranger, an 05 blazer, an 06 blazer, a 91 Cherokee, Chevy Silverado 1500, and giant 88 blazer shop truck for back up (lol). Growing up in the North we didn't have many places to go and not many wet places aside from the melted permafrost going north that we can find just outisde the train tracks going to Churchill, and then the big pit as I explained last time that is actually a sanctioned offroad course owned by a rich local contracting company.
In one outing, we were all taking turns in the pit going up the "ramp" we called it. It was literally a 40 foot high, 70-75 degree incline with a rounded off lip of the top of the pit from the bottom of the pit, literally going from inside to outside in one go. It was a pretty tough jump for guys that didn't have the tires or the power (my old 3.0L couldn't do it and I nearly lost my whole rear end trying lol) but everyone came prepared. The tires were the most important to be honest. The regular grouping i mentioned all made it up fine everytime, was always a blast giving it everything you had, getting it into high rpms on 2nd and ripping back into first when you hit the incline, all you'd see is dirt, then stars, some trees and ground coming closer, and then you'd practically lose your tailbone and crush all your seats, especially me in my little ranger LOL. One time this guy we knew named steve brought his 89 S10 4.3L (piece of shit, muffler was hanging off). And he ran that little shit box right from the top of the other side, straight down, and hit that incline doing probably 140 kmh and on the way up tore his rear axle out, both front wheels popped like a pringles lid when you squeeze the package. He slid nearly the whole length of that hill and made it to the top with no tires and pure undercarriage, truck was toast after that haha.
One of the funniest adventures is when we were going to permafrost areas during summer. It's disgusting in those areas, the permafrost melts and makes these pseudo-marshes that are nothing but weeds, moss, water, mudd, tall grass, willows and bushes with the odd animal carcass buried in. The two blazer's led the way, they were both lifted up with huge tires on them, followed by me, the silverado, and the cherokee. We made it about a KM in just before our turn to a dirt road by the ski hill when the front blazer turned in the wrong spot and got stuck, we all slowed down, and eventually ALL of us got stuck. My buddy had to track to the road, and walk back to the Chevy dealership where my buddies all worked and grabbed the big 88 Blazer shop truck. It was outfitted with a 6.0L and a huge pulling system, the narstiest frame stiffening you've ever seen too. He drove in and met us the way we came in, and by that time we had the trucks all hooked up with our chains, and he simply hooked up his huge ass chain, and pulled every single fucking one of us a full kilometer back the way we came. We were all just laughing at this 88 blazer pulling 5 vehicles behind it through 3 feet of permafrost-mud.
Yeah, i missed out on more good times after I got the car lol
Our group was my ranger, an 05 blazer, an 06 blazer, a 91 Cherokee, Chevy Silverado 1500, and giant 88 blazer shop truck for back up (lol). Growing up in the North we didn't have many places to go and not many wet places aside from the melted permafrost going north that we can find just outisde the train tracks going to Churchill, and then the big pit as I explained last time that is actually a sanctioned offroad course owned by a rich local contracting company.
In one outing, we were all taking turns in the pit going up the "ramp" we called it. It was literally a 40 foot high, 70-75 degree incline with a rounded off lip of the top of the pit from the bottom of the pit, literally going from inside to outside in one go. It was a pretty tough jump for guys that didn't have the tires or the power (my old 3.0L couldn't do it and I nearly lost my whole rear end trying lol) but everyone came prepared. The tires were the most important to be honest. The regular grouping i mentioned all made it up fine everytime, was always a blast giving it everything you had, getting it into high rpms on 2nd and ripping back into first when you hit the incline, all you'd see is dirt, then stars, some trees and ground coming closer, and then you'd practically lose your tailbone and crush all your seats, especially me in my little ranger LOL. One time this guy we knew named steve brought his 89 S10 4.3L (piece of shit, muffler was hanging off). And he ran that little shit box right from the top of the other side, straight down, and hit that incline doing probably 140 kmh and on the way up tore his rear axle out, both front wheels popped like a pringles lid when you squeeze the package. He slid nearly the whole length of that hill and made it to the top with no tires and pure undercarriage, truck was toast after that haha.
One of the funniest adventures is when we were going to permafrost areas during summer. It's disgusting in those areas, the permafrost melts and makes these pseudo-marshes that are nothing but weeds, moss, water, mudd, tall grass, willows and bushes with the odd animal carcass buried in. The two blazer's led the way, they were both lifted up with huge tires on them, followed by me, the silverado, and the cherokee. We made it about a KM in just before our turn to a dirt road by the ski hill when the front blazer turned in the wrong spot and got stuck, we all slowed down, and eventually ALL of us got stuck. My buddy had to track to the road, and walk back to the Chevy dealership where my buddies all worked and grabbed the big 88 Blazer shop truck. It was outfitted with a 6.0L and a huge pulling system, the narstiest frame stiffening you've ever seen too. He drove in and met us the way we came in, and by that time we had the trucks all hooked up with our chains, and he simply hooked up his huge ass chain, and pulled every single fucking one of us a full kilometer back the way we came. We were all just laughing at this 88 blazer pulling 5 vehicles behind it through 3 feet of permafrost-mud.
Yeah, i missed out on more good times after I got the car lol
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says a fatass forum troll(mmateri) defending a juvenile-minded conspiracy theorist(wolffe)
says a fatass forum troll(mmateri) defending a juvenile-minded conspiracy theorist(wolffe)
says a fatass forum troll(mmateri) defending a juvenile-minded conspiracy theorist(wolffe)
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so says a fellow conspiracy theorist, crackpot, tinfoil hat wearing dumbass..........."oh my we had less snow one year, and yeah remember when we had to turn that air conditioner on for a week in the summer...........omg they said global warming was happening on the news" you fools take the bait, hook line and sinker.........don't worry i'll drain my oil in the storm drain again next time with your name on it so i can contaminate some 20 million litres of fresh water, just because you're an enviro-geek-conspiracy theorist
says a fatass forum troll(mmateri) defending a juvenile-minded conspiracy theorist(wolffe)
so says a fellow conspiracy theorist, crackpot, tinfoil hat wearing dumbass..........."oh my we had less snow one year, and yeah remember when we had to turn that air conditioner on for a week in the summer...........omg they said global warming was happening on the news" you fools take the bait, hook line and sinker.........don't worry i'll drain my oil in the storm drain again next time with your name on it so i can contaminate some 20 million litres of fresh water, just because you're an enviro-geek-conspiracy theorist