^^Nope wrong. They just competed against each other.
Nova is actually right.
ManicSquirrel, you are wrong. People try and tell me Hitler wasn't a socialist all the time. Too bad he himself (and a few others) came up with the party name of National Socialism. Oops.
Socialism is a broad term that defines styles of thinking and practice. Any system that contains parts of or all of the principles of Socialism is therefore socialist. Communism is socialist. Fascism is socialist. Democracy (leads to) socialism. Fabian-Sociliast, Marxist-Socialism etc and on and on.
Shut up ^ You yourself have stated "All property is theft" which is absurd. Yet in pictures of you I see you wearing a hat and clothes. Why did you steal your clothes you have on then? Shouldn't you be naked?
Shut up ^ You yourself have stated "All property is theft" which is absurd. Yet in pictures of you I see you wearing a hat and clothes. Why did you steal your clothes you have on then? Shouldn't you be naked?
Facepalms all round.
I was being tongue in cheek you numbnuts. It was Pierre Proudhon who said Property is Theft, but you'd know that of course, being such an expert on the history of socialism.
Facepalms all round.
I was being tongue in cheek you numbnuts. It was Pierre Proudhon who said Property is Theft, but you'd know that of course, being such an expert on the history of socialism.
Your personal attacks against me really disappoint me Pablo, and it really makes you're argument weak.
As for socialism, every time it has ever been in practice, in any form, the people have suffered. You don't need to wear tinfoil to know that. Just crack a few books and you'll see.
^^Nope wrong. They just competed against each other.
Nova is actually right.
ManicSquirrel, you are wrong. People try and tell me Hitler wasn't a socialist all the time. Too bad he himself (and a few others) came up with the party name of National Socialism. Oops.
hitler didn't come up with the name or start the party.
your stupid hurts me physically.
Socialism was created BY the mysteries. They actually payed a hack writer (karl marx) to pretty much copy down their idea they already came up with so as to not arouse suspicion.
vote adam at the next election and there will be no socialism, fascism, television, nocturnalism, judaism; just world peace and perfect harmony amongst all who serve adamism. breath fresh air, breath adam (does not apply to scots)
a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2.
procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3.
(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
fascism
1.
(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
2.
(sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.
3.
(initial capital letter) a fascist movement, esp. the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922–43.
either extreme, both socialism and fascism is wrong. either way, but can we all agree that that's not even what this graphic is getting at?
I think that it's trying to point out the similarities in Hitler's and Obama's rise to power. Hitler came out of nowhere and gained power in a free state and succeeded in turning it into a dictatorship. There's speculation that Obama is on that path also. Comparing them, the similarities are kind of scary.
either extreme, both socialism and fascism is wrong. either way, but can we all agree that that's not even what this graphic is getting at?
I think that it's trying to point out the similarities in Hitler's and Obama's rise to power. Hitler came out of nowhere and gained power in a free state and succeeded in turning it into a dictatorship. There's speculation that Obama is on that path also. Comparing them, the similarities are kind of scary.
your right, an extreme of any ideology is bad, capitalism, fascism, socialism ect... but to single out just socialism is unfair. if you thin socialism is bad then your going to have to give up the healthcare system, public transport, schools, roads, police, firemen and man more things thats vital for a country to exist and have order. what you need is a steady mix of capitalism and socialism. they can co-exist, but i feel that more of the socialism side needs to be in effect rather than the cpaitalist side that we lean too much to.
and with the whole dictatorship thing, i would think that Bush was more of a chance at being one than Obama.... bush disregarede the whole consistution, Obama has stuck to the constitution more so than most of his predecssors.
and just because you can see a political player from a mile away does that make any difference? most of the best leaders in the world won their way into office from no where.
and if your looking for similarities just look at the smilirties of bush and hitler, they are more alike than Obama and Hitler.
either extreme, both socialism and fascism is wrong. either way, but can we all agree that that's not even what this graphic is getting at?
I think that it's trying to point out the similarities in Hitler's and Obama's rise to power. Hitler came out of nowhere and gained power in a free state and succeeded in turning it into a dictatorship. There's speculation that Obama is on that path also. Comparing them, the similarities are kind of scary.
Riiiight, just like George Bush would cling to power after his term ended so he could finally implement the much-touted "American Police State." Didn't happen then. Won't happen now.
The great thing about whack-job conspiracy nuts - it doesn't even matter who's in charge. As long as they don't share the EXACT beliefs of the conspiracy nut, they are always bringing America down the road to fascism.
Comparing Hitler and Obama? (I didn't bother to read this.) They're similar because they both came out of nowhere?
Obama went to Harvard, presided as president of the prestigious Harvard Law Review, was a community organizer, a State Senator, and a US Senator before his presidental bid. Hitler was an angry art school dropout with a big mouth who rode a band of other angry thugs into power during some seriously troubled times in post WW1 Germany. That's similar?
^but you have to give Hitler credit, he brought a war ravaged country that was nationally humiliated and made them have the best Army, Infrastructure and some of the best technologies of that time. sure he was responsible for killing millions of people, but that's all the people focus on these days and not on the other things he managed to get done.
^hitler was a genius, if it wasnt for the fact he was psychotic hed be the perfect leader.
fido, hitler didnt really come out of nowhere, he was arrested for leading a coup years before he was in power. although it wasnt hard to gather support in a downtrodden nation, still being punished by the rest of europe with unreasonable debts and sanctions.
^hitler was a genius, if it wasnt for the fact he was psychotic hed be the perfect leader.
fido, hitler didnt really come out of nowhere, he was arrested for leading a coup years before he was in power. although it wasnt hard to gather support in a downtrodden nation, still being punished by the rest of europe with unreasonable debts and sanctions.
i wholeheartedly agree. if he hadnt had such an illogical mindset, wielded an arrogance beyond his capability to support, misguided and slaughtered his people, put 6 million odd jews into concentration camps rather than the army, had only 1 ball, invaded russia in winter and dared to fuck with England then he would have been the perfect leader!
^hitler was a genius, if it wasnt for the fact he was psychotic hed be the perfect leader.
fido, hitler didnt really come out of nowhere, he was arrested for leading a coup years before he was in power. although it wasnt hard to gather support in a downtrodden nation, still being punished by the rest of europe with unreasonable debts and sanctions.
i wholeheartedly agree. if he hadnt had such an illogical mindset, wielded an arrogance beyond his capability to support, misguided and slaughtered his people, put 6 million odd jews into concentration camps rather than the army, had only 1 ball, invaded russia in winter and dared to fuck with England then he would have been the perfect leader!
^hitler was a genius, if it wasnt for the fact he was psychotic hed be the perfect leader.
fido, hitler didnt really come out of nowhere, he was arrested for leading a coup years before he was in power. although it wasnt hard to gather support in a downtrodden nation, still being punished by the rest of europe with unreasonable debts and sanctions.
i wholeheartedly agree. if he hadnt had such an illogical mindset, wielded an arrogance beyond his capability to support, misguided and slaughtered his people, put 6 million odd jews into concentration camps rather than the army, had only 1 ball, invaded russia in winter and dared to fuck with England then he would have been the perfect leader!
i wholeheartedly agree. if he hadnt had such an illogical mindset, wielded an arrogance beyond his capability to support, misguided and slaughtered his people, put 6 million odd jews into concentration camps rather than the army, had only 1 ball, invaded russia in winter and dared to fuck with England then he would have been the perfect leader!
It wasn't 6million jews, it was 6million people, about 75% were jews, there were loads of homeless people, gypsies and some others as well.
i wholeheartedly agree. if he hadnt had such an illogical mindset, wielded an arrogance beyond his capability to support, misguided and slaughtered his people, put 6 million odd jews into concentration camps rather than the army, had only 1 ball, invaded russia in winter and dared to fuck with England then he would have been the perfect leader!
It wasn't 6million jews, it was 6million people, about 75% were jews, there were loads of homeless people, gypsies and some others as well.
Communists, socialists and trade-unionists were the first to go.
i wholeheartedly agree. if he hadnt had such an illogical mindset, wielded an arrogance beyond his capability to support, misguided and slaughtered his people, put 6 million odd jews into concentration camps rather than the army, had only 1 ball, invaded russia in winter and dared to fuck with England then he would have been the perfect leader!
It wasn't 6million jews, it was 6million people, about 75% were jews, there were loads of homeless people, gypsies and some others as well.
Communists, socialists and trade-unionists were the first to go.
Even more so the gypsy numbers are wrong. More gypsys than jews died.
^hitler was a genius, if it wasnt for the fact he was psychotic hed be the perfect leader.
fido, hitler didnt really come out of nowhere, he was arrested for leading a coup years before he was in power. although it wasnt hard to gather support in a downtrodden nation, still being punished by the rest of europe with unreasonable debts and sanctions.
i wholeheartedly agree. if he hadnt had such an illogical mindset, wielded an arrogance beyond his capability to support, misguided and slaughtered his people, put 6 million odd jews into concentration camps rather than the army, had only 1 ball, invaded russia in winter and dared to fuck with England then he would have been the perfect leader!
like i said, if he wasnt psychotic...
And ehm sorry to say this mate, but you're wrong. Germany was a very strong country, hitler threw it into the garbage and shat on it bigtime.
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Nova is actually right.
ManicSquirrel, you are wrong. People try and tell me Hitler wasn't a socialist all the time. Too bad he himself (and a few others) came up with the party name of National Socialism. Oops.
@wolfe
I think you've already made it abundantly clear you have absolutely no understanding of socialism.
Facepalms all round.
I was being tongue in cheek you numbnuts. It was Pierre Proudhon who said Property is Theft, but you'd know that of course, being such an expert on the history of socialism.
Facepalms all round.
I was being tongue in cheek you numbnuts. It was Pierre Proudhon who said Property is Theft, but you'd know that of course, being such an expert on the history of socialism.
Your personal attacks against me really disappoint me Pablo, and it really makes you're argument weak.
As for socialism, every time it has ever been in practice, in any form, the people have suffered. You don't need to wear tinfoil to know that. Just crack a few books and you'll see.
Nova is actually right.
ManicSquirrel, you are wrong. People try and tell me Hitler wasn't a socialist all the time. Too bad he himself (and a few others) came up with the party name of National Socialism. Oops.
hitler didn't come up with the name or start the party.
your stupid hurts me physically.
Why don't you guys go back to sucking each other's cocks and leave the steering to those who are more qualified.
@wolffe
socialism
fascism
I think that it's trying to point out the similarities in Hitler's and Obama's rise to power. Hitler came out of nowhere and gained power in a free state and succeeded in turning it into a dictatorship. There's speculation that Obama is on that path also. Comparing them, the similarities are kind of scary.
I think that it's trying to point out the similarities in Hitler's and Obama's rise to power. Hitler came out of nowhere and gained power in a free state and succeeded in turning it into a dictatorship. There's speculation that Obama is on that path also. Comparing them, the similarities are kind of scary.
your right, an extreme of any ideology is bad, capitalism, fascism, socialism ect... but to single out just socialism is unfair. if you thin socialism is bad then your going to have to give up the healthcare system, public transport, schools, roads, police, firemen and man more things thats vital for a country to exist and have order. what you need is a steady mix of capitalism and socialism. they can co-exist, but i feel that more of the socialism side needs to be in effect rather than the cpaitalist side that we lean too much to.
and with the whole dictatorship thing, i would think that Bush was more of a chance at being one than Obama.... bush disregarede the whole consistution, Obama has stuck to the constitution more so than most of his predecssors.
and just because you can see a political player from a mile away does that make any difference? most of the best leaders in the world won their way into office from no where.
and if your looking for similarities just look at the smilirties of bush and hitler, they are more alike than Obama and Hitler.
I think that it's trying to point out the similarities in Hitler's and Obama's rise to power. Hitler came out of nowhere and gained power in a free state and succeeded in turning it into a dictatorship. There's speculation that Obama is on that path also. Comparing them, the similarities are kind of scary.
Riiiight, just like George Bush would cling to power after his term ended so he could finally implement the much-touted "American Police State." Didn't happen then. Won't happen now.
The great thing about whack-job conspiracy nuts - it doesn't even matter who's in charge. As long as they don't share the EXACT beliefs of the conspiracy nut, they are always bringing America down the road to fascism.
Obama went to Harvard, presided as president of the prestigious Harvard Law Review, was a community organizer, a State Senator, and a US Senator before his presidental bid. Hitler was an angry art school dropout with a big mouth who rode a band of other angry thugs into power during some seriously troubled times in post WW1 Germany. That's similar?
fido, hitler didnt really come out of nowhere, he was arrested for leading a coup years before he was in power. although it wasnt hard to gather support in a downtrodden nation, still being punished by the rest of europe with unreasonable debts and sanctions.
fido, hitler didnt really come out of nowhere, he was arrested for leading a coup years before he was in power. although it wasnt hard to gather support in a downtrodden nation, still being punished by the rest of europe with unreasonable debts and sanctions.
i wholeheartedly agree. if he hadnt had such an illogical mindset, wielded an arrogance beyond his capability to support, misguided and slaughtered his people, put 6 million odd jews into concentration camps rather than the army, had only 1 ball, invaded russia in winter and dared to fuck with England then he would have been the perfect leader!
fido, hitler didnt really come out of nowhere, he was arrested for leading a coup years before he was in power. although it wasnt hard to gather support in a downtrodden nation, still being punished by the rest of europe with unreasonable debts and sanctions.
i wholeheartedly agree. if he hadnt had such an illogical mindset, wielded an arrogance beyond his capability to support, misguided and slaughtered his people, put 6 million odd jews into concentration camps rather than the army, had only 1 ball, invaded russia in winter and dared to fuck with England then he would have been the perfect leader!
like i said, if he wasnt psychotic...
fido, hitler didnt really come out of nowhere, he was arrested for leading a coup years before he was in power. although it wasnt hard to gather support in a downtrodden nation, still being punished by the rest of europe with unreasonable debts and sanctions.
i wholeheartedly agree. if he hadnt had such an illogical mindset, wielded an arrogance beyond his capability to support, misguided and slaughtered his people, put 6 million odd jews into concentration camps rather than the army, had only 1 ball, invaded russia in winter and dared to fuck with England then he would have been the perfect leader!
QFT
wait, how do you know Obama has 2? Maybe he has 3.
It wasn't 6million jews, it was 6million people, about 75% were jews, there were loads of homeless people, gypsies and some others as well.
Fucking jews always exagerate the number.
It wasn't 6million jews, it was 6million people, about 75% were jews, there were loads of homeless people, gypsies and some others as well.
Communists, socialists and trade-unionists were the first to go.
It wasn't 6million jews, it was 6million people, about 75% were jews, there were loads of homeless people, gypsies and some others as well.
Communists, socialists and trade-unionists were the first to go.
Even more so the gypsy numbers are wrong. More gypsys than jews died.
fido, hitler didnt really come out of nowhere, he was arrested for leading a coup years before he was in power. although it wasnt hard to gather support in a downtrodden nation, still being punished by the rest of europe with unreasonable debts and sanctions.
i wholeheartedly agree. if he hadnt had such an illogical mindset, wielded an arrogance beyond his capability to support, misguided and slaughtered his people, put 6 million odd jews into concentration camps rather than the army, had only 1 ball, invaded russia in winter and dared to fuck with England then he would have been the perfect leader!
like i said, if he wasnt psychotic...
And ehm sorry to say this mate, but you're wrong. Germany was a very strong country, hitler threw it into the garbage and shat on it bigtime.