^ i dunno about the "web" being created by "the brits" as far as i know it was Tim Berners-Lee, and hes just one guy, not all of everyone who's british.....
^ i dunno about the "web" being created by "the brits" as far as i know it was Tim Berners-Lee, and hes just one guy, not all of everyone who's british.....
[quote user=LithuanianLabourer] ^ And who are shamans and chiefs in such societies, then ? [/quote]
socialism isnt leaderless. sheet yis can't have society without a leader, on any scale. hence why most comunes fail, cpz theor leadership jus isnt up to the jerb
LithuanianLabourer wrote:
^ And who are shamans and chiefs in such societies, then ?
socialism isnt leaderless. sheet yis can't have society without a leader, on any scale. hence why most comunes fail, cpz theor leadership jus isnt up to the jerb
I'm pretty sure socialist and communist communities have religious leaders and spiritual leaders and even guys in charge.
That doesn't mean that they don't start with the basic principle of working together and sharing everything. [/quote]
Yes, but unfortunately our society has means to store food and goods, leading to concept of personal property, barter, capital and wealth.
Thus we are much more complex than society of "Let's all look for food and share it for survival in one big extended family".
[quote user=mrbig4545] [quote user=LithuanianLabourer]^ And who are shamans and chiefs in such societies, then ?[/quote]
socialism isnt leaderless. sheet yis can't have society without a leader, on any scale. hence why most comunes fail, cpz theor leadership jus isnt up to the jerb [/quote]
Nah, leadership is alright, leadership comes from the best of the people, but in the end it's those fucking people, they are not up for the task their leadership gives them.
Lazy, selfish ... gits.
Fleck wrote:
You mean spiritual leaders.
I'm pretty sure socialist and communist communities have religious leaders and spiritual leaders and even guys in charge.
That doesn't mean that they don't start with the basic principle of working together and sharing everything.
Yes, but unfortunately our society has means to store food and goods, leading to concept of personal property, barter, capital and wealth.
Thus we are much more complex than society of "Let's all look for food and share it for survival in one big extended family".
mrbig4545 wrote:
LithuanianLabourer wrote:
^ And who are shamans and chiefs in such societies, then ?
socialism isnt leaderless. sheet yis can't have society without a leader, on any scale. hence why most comunes fail, cpz theor leadership jus isnt up to the jerb
Nah, leadership is alright, leadership comes from the best of the people, but in the end it's those fucking people, they are not up for the task their leadership gives them.
[quote user=Fleck] Actually it is. All original human societies were socialists. Tribes are socialist in their nature. Socialism is the way communities are formed. [/quote]
Codswaddle you mumfucker! That would be tribalism. You are not a citizen under a tribal system. You are not autonomous from the the tribe and you deal in honor and preconceived ideas, not the rights of any minority or outsider. You also only get a say if you are in the correct hierarchy.
Fleck wrote:
Actually it is. All original human societies were socialists. Tribes are socialist in their nature. Socialism is the way communities are formed.
Codswaddle you mumfucker! That would be tribalism. You are not a citizen under a tribal system. You are not autonomous from the the tribe and you deal in honor and preconceived ideas, not the rights of any minority or outsider. You also only get a say if you are in the correct hierarchy.
Well, IMO, personal belief, we're going back to the tribal way of life. Whether it's within the next few years or the next few hundred years, we'll be there again sometime. This modern system we've built cannot be permanently sustained for much longer. We'll go back to a society that lives and trades locally and travels very little. Hopefully we'll still have some form of internet/radio-type communication left, even if slow and dated.
Well, IMO, personal belief, we're going back to the tribal way of life. Whether it's within the next few years or the next few hundred years, we'll be there again sometime. This modern system we've built cannot be permanently sustained for much longer. We'll go back to a society that lives and trades locally and travels very little. Hopefully we'll still have some form of internet/radio-type communication left, even if slow and dated.
[quote user=Fleck] Well, IMO, personal belief, we're going back to the tribal way of life. Whether it's within the next few years or the next few hundred years, we'll be there again sometime. This modern system we've built cannot be permanently sustained for much longer. We'll go back to a society that lives and trades locally and travels very little. Hopefully we'll still have some form of internet/radio-type communication left, even if slow and dated. [/quote]
vote green and we will, only with the high tech we currently have. the rein of industy is over, long live the rein of ecology(?).
Fleck wrote:
Well, IMO, personal belief, we're going back to the tribal way of life. Whether it's within the next few years or the next few hundred years, we'll be there again sometime. This modern system we've built cannot be permanently sustained for much longer. We'll go back to a society that lives and trades locally and travels very little. Hopefully we'll still have some form of internet/radio-type communication left, even if slow and dated.
vote green and we will, only with the high tech we currently have. the rein of industy is over, long live the rein of ecology(?).
[quote user=Fleck] Well, IMO, personal belief, we're going back to the tribal way of life. Whether it's within the next few years or the next few hundred years, we'll be there again sometime. This modern system we've built cannot be permanently sustained for much longer. We'll go back to a society that lives and trades locally and travels very little. Hopefully we'll still have some form of internet/radio-type communication left, even if slow and dated. [/quote]
Super......I can't WAIT!!!!!
Fleck wrote:
Well, IMO, personal belief, we're going back to the tribal way of life. Whether it's within the next few years or the next few hundred years, we'll be there again sometime. This modern system we've built cannot be permanently sustained for much longer. We'll go back to a society that lives and trades locally and travels very little. Hopefully we'll still have some form of internet/radio-type communication left, even if slow and dated.
more intelligence = more selflessness. also it is my opinion that others can help you more than you can yourself, so others are in your best interest, not yourself.
more intelligence = more selflessness. also it is my opinion that others can help you more than you can yourself, so others are in your best interest, not yourself.
[quote user=Fleck] Well, IMO, personal belief, we're going back to the tribal way of life. Whether it's within the next few years or the next few hundred years, we'll be there again sometime. This modern system we've built cannot be permanently sustained for much longer. We'll go back to a society that lives and trades locally and travels very little. Hopefully we'll still have some form of internet/radio-type communication left, even if slow and dated. [/quote]
You're probably right:
Fleck wrote:
Well, IMO, personal belief, we're going back to the tribal way of life. Whether it's within the next few years or the next few hundred years, we'll be there again sometime. This modern system we've built cannot be permanently sustained for much longer. We'll go back to a society that lives and trades locally and travels very little. Hopefully we'll still have some form of internet/radio-type communication left, even if slow and dated.
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btw, if it wasn't for the USA you wouldn't even be able to post your psychobabble.
btw, if it wasn't for the USA you wouldn't even be able to post your psychobabble.
btw, if it wasn't for the USA you wouldn't even be able to post your psychobabble.
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lol, ignorance is bliss, innit?
the internet was a collaboration between brittish and us researchers
the web was created by the brits
btw, if it wasn't for the USA you wouldn't even be able to post your psychobabble.
lol, ignorance is bliss, innit?
the internet was a collaboration between brittish and us researchers
the web was created by the brits
lol, ignorance is bliss, innit?
the internet was a collaboration between brittish and us researchers
the web was created by the brits
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Wtf are you talking about??
Al gore invented the internet and he's american.
lol, ignorance is bliss, innit?
the internet was a collaboration between brittish and us researchers
the web was created by the brits
Wtf are you talking about??
Al gore invented the internet and he's american.
Al Gore is 'rumored' to be American...
Cartoon is cute - but it speaks the truth: Even cave-man knew that socialism is for ignorant knob-jockeys...
Al Gore is 'rumored' to be American...
Cartoon is cute - but it speaks the truth: Even cave-man knew that socialism is for ignorant knob-jockeys...
Everyone realizes that we all share everything, and they start doing so for the greater good of the populus.
Everybody wins with Socialism. Unless it's fake Socialism. Then 'dey come aftir ower freedumz!'
Everyone realizes that we all share everything, and they start doing so for the greater good of the populus.
Everybody wins with Socialism. Unless it's fake Socialism. Then 'dey come aftir ower freedumz!'
Everyone realizes that we all share everything, and they start doing so for the greater good of the populus.
Everybody wins with Socialism. Unless it's fake Socialism. Then 'dey come aftir ower freedumz!'
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How about no?
Everyone realizes that we all share everything, and they start doing so for the greater good of the populus.
Everybody wins with Socialism. Unless it's fake Socialism. Then 'dey come aftir ower freedumz!'
How about no?
I'm pretty sure socialist and communist communities have religious leaders and spiritual leaders and even guys in charge.
That doesn't mean that they don't start with the basic principle of working together and sharing everything.
I'm pretty sure socialist and communist communities have religious leaders and spiritual leaders and even guys in charge.
That doesn't mean that they don't start with the basic principle of working together and sharing everything.
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socialism isnt leaderless. sheet yis can't have society without a leader, on any scale. hence why most comunes fail, cpz theor leadership jus isnt up to the jerb
socialism isnt leaderless. sheet yis can't have society without a leader, on any scale. hence why most comunes fail, cpz theor leadership jus isnt up to the jerb
I'm pretty sure socialist and communist communities have religious leaders and spiritual leaders and even guys in charge.
That doesn't mean that they don't start with the basic principle of working together and sharing everything.
[/quote]
Yes, but unfortunately our society has means to store food and goods, leading to concept of personal property, barter, capital and wealth.
Thus we are much more complex than society of "Let's all look for food and share it for survival in one big extended family".
[quote user=mrbig4545] [quote user=LithuanianLabourer]^ And who are shamans and chiefs in such societies, then ?[/quote]
socialism isnt leaderless. sheet yis can't have society without a leader, on any scale. hence why most comunes fail, cpz theor leadership jus isnt up to the jerb
[/quote]
Nah, leadership is alright, leadership comes from the best of the people, but in the end it's those fucking people, they are not up for the task their leadership gives them.
Lazy, selfish ... gits.
I'm pretty sure socialist and communist communities have religious leaders and spiritual leaders and even guys in charge.
That doesn't mean that they don't start with the basic principle of working together and sharing everything.
Yes, but unfortunately our society has means to store food and goods, leading to concept of personal property, barter, capital and wealth.
Thus we are much more complex than society of "Let's all look for food and share it for survival in one big extended family".
socialism isnt leaderless. sheet yis can't have society without a leader, on any scale. hence why most comunes fail, cpz theor leadership jus isnt up to the jerb
Nah, leadership is alright, leadership comes from the best of the people, but in the end it's those fucking people, they are not up for the task their leadership gives them.
Lazy, selfish ... gits.
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Codswaddle you mumfucker! That would be tribalism. You are not a citizen under a tribal system. You are not autonomous from the the tribe and you deal in honor and preconceived ideas, not the rights of any minority or outsider. You also only get a say if you are in the correct hierarchy.
Codswaddle you mumfucker! That would be tribalism. You are not a citizen under a tribal system. You are not autonomous from the the tribe and you deal in honor and preconceived ideas, not the rights of any minority or outsider. You also only get a say if you are in the correct hierarchy.
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vote green and we will, only with the high tech we currently have. the rein of industy is over, long live the rein of ecology(?).
vote green and we will, only with the high tech we currently have. the rein of industy is over, long live the rein of ecology(?).
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Super......I can't WAIT!!!!!
Super......I can't WAIT!!!!!
also it is my opinion that others can help you more than you can yourself, so others are in your best interest, not yourself.
also it is my opinion that others can help you more than you can yourself, so others are in your best interest, not yourself.
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You're probably right:
You're probably right:
Do you really believe the way our current society is setup and the way it's going that this technological wonder will last forever?
One day we will sit around tee-pees telling stories of when the world was as it is today, and how sad it was that it could not be maintained.
Do you really believe the way our current society is setup and the way it's going that this technological wonder will last forever?
One day we will sit around tee-pees telling stories of when the world was as it is today, and how sad it was that it could not be maintained.