Switzerland has the lowest crime rate in the world,because the people are armed,basic military is mandatory for men,and after wards they are required to keep...
What the fuck are you guys on about. the swiss ARE fucking terrifying. You're all awakening the slumbering beast! Has History taught you all nothing????
What the fuck are you guys on about. the swiss ARE fucking terrifying. You're all awakening the slumbering beast! Has History taught you all nothing????
No one invades switzerland because there is no tactical advantage in occupying the Swiss. You'd have to irrationally abhor the Swiss to want to invade them. Cue Operation Tannenbaum.
"Switzerland possessed the most disgusting and miserable people and political system. The Swiss were the mortal enemies of the new Germany."
In August 1942 Hitler further described Switzerland as "a pimple on the face of Europe" and as a state that no longer had a right to exist, denouncing the Swiss people as "a misbegotten branch of our Volk."
No one invades switzerland because there is no tactical advantage in occupying the Swiss. You'd have to irrationally abhor the Swiss to want to invade them. Cue Operation Tannenbaum.
"Switzerland possessed the most disgusting and miserable people and political system. The Swiss were the mortal enemies of the new Germany."
In August 1942 Hitler further described Switzerland as "a pimple on the face of Europe" and as a state that no longer had a right to exist, denouncing the Swiss people as "a misbegotten branch of our Volk."
Switzerland doesn't have millions of nut jobs running around. Also Switzerland tends to be the neutral country in which other countries can store their money so it itsn't in their best interests to invade. There are heaps of guns in the countries that have gone to shit also, you will never see low crime rates in those places.
Switzerland doesn't have millions of nut jobs running around. Also Switzerland tends to be the neutral country in which other countries can store their money so it itsn't in their best interests to invade. There are heaps of guns in the countries that have gone to shit also, you will never see low crime rates in those places.
Was watching QI not long back, and they pointed out Switzerland would be one of the most violent countries in the world, if you only considered the militia members. Even though they have great training and care, they still have a high rate of shooting family members and themselves.
Of course, the Government has since cracked down on gun-restrictions, following a large number of homicides and a few mass-shootings from Swiss militia members. We like to imagine everyone carries a gun, but the US still has far higher firearm ownership... and owners do not go through the screening or training Switzerland mandates.
Was watching QI not long back, and they pointed out Switzerland would be one of the most violent countries in the world, if you only considered the militia members. Even though they have great training and care, they still have a high rate of shooting family members and themselves.
Of course, the Government has since cracked down on gun-restrictions, following a large number of homicides and a few mass-shootings from Swiss militia members. We like to imagine everyone carries a gun, but the US still has far higher firearm ownership... and owners do not go through the screening or training Switzerland mandates.
I don't think Switzerland even correlates with the argument that the militia makes Switzerland safe.
The militia members have had a history of killing family members and high-profile mass-shootings, which have forced the country to enact very strict restrictions in recent years.
The high rate of crimes by militia members is just balanced by a much larger population that has no firearms at all, and has lots of access to money and social services.
[quote user=otester]Wonder what those numbers would look like counting only gun owners in states which allow it versus prohibition states.[/quote]
No idea what you are trying to argue here. No states prohibit firearm ownership.
EDIT: If you mean nation-states, then it's pretty straightforward that more guns = higher homicide & suicide rate. Even the otherwise peaceful nation of Finland has a relatively high homicide rate, due to an equally high ownership rate. Likewise, the rather violent UK has a low homicide rate equal to Asia, which all share tough restrictions on firearms.
There doesn't seem to be much spillover into other crimes. Finland still has low crime (ignoring homicide) and low poverty. UK still has high violent crime and gangs on par with the US, but people just don't die from it.
I don't think Switzerland even correlates with the argument that the militia makes Switzerland safe.
The militia members have had a history of killing family members and high-profile mass-shootings, which have forced the country to enact very strict restrictions in recent years.
The high rate of crimes by militia members is just balanced by a much larger population that has no firearms at all, and has lots of access to money and social services.
otester wrote:
Wonder what those numbers would look like counting only gun owners in states which allow it versus prohibition states.
No idea what you are trying to argue here. No states prohibit firearm ownership.
EDIT: If you mean nation-states, then it's pretty straightforward that more guns = higher homicide & suicide rate. Even the otherwise peaceful nation of Finland has a relatively high homicide rate, due to an equally high ownership rate. Likewise, the rather violent UK has a low homicide rate equal to Asia, which all share tough restrictions on firearms.
There doesn't seem to be much spillover into other crimes. Finland still has low crime (ignoring homicide) and low poverty. UK still has high violent crime and gangs on par with the US, but people just don't die from it.
Meh, these are just verifiable facts. I haven't stated any opinion at all, because I don't have one either way.
Obviously, strong gun regulations give countries like the UK and Japan very low homicide rates... but you are still only talking about a difference of 5 homicides per 100,000 vs 1 homicide.
In other words, Americans have a 1-in-250 chance of being killed. Someone in England accepts closer to 1-in-1250. Cancer is still more likely to get you.
Meh, these are just verifiable facts. I haven't stated any opinion at all, because I don't have one either way.
Obviously, strong gun regulations give countries like the UK and Japan very low homicide rates... but you are still only talking about a difference of 5 homicides per 100,000 vs 1 homicide.
In other words, Americans have a 1-in-250 chance of being killed. Someone in England accepts closer to 1-in-1250. Cancer is still more likely to get you.
[quote user=EricManning] Obviously, strong gun regulations give countries like the UK and Japan very low homicide rates... but you are still only talking about a difference of 5 homicides per 100,000 vs 1 homicide. [/quote]
Guns just make it easier, guess British/Japanese citizens are just lazy.
EricManning wrote:
Obviously, strong gun regulations give countries like the UK and Japan very low homicide rates... but you are still only talking about a difference of 5 homicides per 100,000 vs 1 homicide.
Guns just make it easier, guess British/Japanese citizens are just lazy.
^ No, it's just that there is some percentage of morons in every country and british and Japanese morons don't get to have guns. The lack of guns makes it several times harder for morons to kill themselves or each other whether intentionally or not.
^ No, it's just that there is some percentage of morons in every country and british and Japanese morons don't get to have guns. The lack of guns makes it several times harder for morons to kill themselves or each other whether intentionally or not.
[quote user=LithuanianLabourer] ^ No, it's just that there is some percentage of morons in every country and british and Japanese morons don't get to have guns. The lack of guns makes it several times harder for morons to kill themselves or each other whether intentionally or not. [/quote]
What is this? Liths.............PROTECTOR OF THE MORONS!!!!!!
HALT THERE YOU DUMMY! Don't you know that gun could kill you?
Yeah...........that's the point asshole...........
LithuanianLabourer wrote:
^ No, it's just that there is some percentage of morons in every country and british and Japanese morons don't get to have guns. The lack of guns makes it several times harder for morons to kill themselves or each other whether intentionally or not.
What is this? Liths.............PROTECTOR OF THE MORONS!!!!!!
HALT THERE YOU DUMMY! Don't you know that gun could kill you?
Yeah...........that's the point asshole...........
I think Lith was more concerned with the victims of the dummies and psychos. He's probably thinking more of the mass-murderers who tend to buy a stockpile of weapons and then go out on some shooting spree.
But I wouldn't just blame the dummies and psychos... I mean, even Switzerland had a problem of militia members shooting their wives. Police have one of the highest homicide and suicide rates of any occupation. These guys all undergo extreme screening and evaluation, but still manage to be more dangerous than the general population.
I think things just escalate according to the tools available. Most homicides are against people you know, so you have a lot of arguments that ultimately turn lethal with firearms. Robberies and simple assaults are more likely to turn deadly. If you are getting your ass kicked, you might even decide to escalate a fight into a lethal situation.
I think Lith was more concerned with the victims of the dummies and psychos. He's probably thinking more of the mass-murderers who tend to buy a stockpile of weapons and then go out on some shooting spree.
But I wouldn't just blame the dummies and psychos... I mean, even Switzerland had a problem of militia members shooting their wives. Police have one of the highest homicide and suicide rates of any occupation. These guys all undergo extreme screening and evaluation, but still manage to be more dangerous than the general population.
I think things just escalate according to the tools available. Most homicides are against people you know, so you have a lot of arguments that ultimately turn lethal with firearms. Robberies and simple assaults are more likely to turn deadly. If you are getting your ass kicked, you might even decide to escalate a fight into a lethal situation.
[quote user=LithuanianLabourer]The lack of guns makes it several times harder for morons to kill themselves or each other whether intentionally or not. [/quote]
Go tell that to someone living in North Korea.
[quote user=EricManning]He's probably thinking more of the mass-murderers who tend to buy a stockpile of weapons and then go out on some shooting spree in a gun free zone. [/quote]
LithuanianLabourer wrote:
The lack of guns makes it several times harder for morons to kill themselves or each other whether intentionally or not.
Go tell that to someone living in North Korea.
EricManning wrote:
He's probably thinking more of the mass-murderers who tend to buy a stockpile of weapons and then go out on some shooting spree in a gun free zone.
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Yes, the Swiss are quite terrifying.
Yes, the Swiss are quite terrifying.
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Yes, the Swiss are quite terrifying.
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Yes, the Swiss are quite terrifying.
What the fuck are you guys on about. the swiss ARE fucking terrifying. You're all awakening the slumbering beast! Has History taught you all nothing????
What the fuck are you guys on about. the swiss ARE fucking terrifying. You're all awakening the slumbering beast! Has History taught you all nothing????
"Switzerland possessed the most disgusting and miserable people and political system. The Swiss were the mortal enemies of the new Germany."
In August 1942 Hitler further described Switzerland as "a pimple on the face of Europe" and as a state that no longer had a right to exist, denouncing the Swiss people as "a misbegotten branch of our Volk."
"Switzerland possessed the most disgusting and miserable people and political system. The Swiss were the mortal enemies of the new Germany."
In August 1942 Hitler further described Switzerland as "a pimple on the face of Europe" and as a state that no longer had a right to exist, denouncing the Swiss people as "a misbegotten branch of our Volk."
Of course, the Government has since cracked down on gun-restrictions, following a large number of homicides and a few mass-shootings from Swiss militia members. We like to imagine everyone carries a gun, but the US still has far higher firearm ownership... and owners do not go through the screening or training Switzerland mandates.
Of course, the Government has since cracked down on gun-restrictions, following a large number of homicides and a few mass-shootings from Swiss militia members. We like to imagine everyone carries a gun, but the US still has far higher firearm ownership... and owners do not go through the screening or training Switzerland mandates.
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Wonder what those numbers would look like counting only gun owners in states which allow it versus prohibition states.
Wonder what those numbers would look like counting only gun owners in states which allow it versus prohibition states.
Wonder what those numbers would look like counting only gun owners in states which allow it versus prohibition states.
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look up the stats then you pussy bitch.
Wonder what those numbers would look like counting only gun owners in states which allow it versus prohibition states.
look up the stats then you pussy bitch.
The militia members have had a history of killing family members and high-profile mass-shootings, which have forced the country to enact very strict restrictions in recent years.
The high rate of crimes by militia members is just balanced by a much larger population that has no firearms at all, and has lots of access to money and social services.
[quote user=otester]Wonder what those numbers would look like counting only gun owners in states which allow it versus prohibition states.[/quote]
No idea what you are trying to argue here. No states prohibit firearm ownership.
EDIT: If you mean nation-states, then it's pretty straightforward that more guns = higher homicide & suicide rate. Even the otherwise peaceful nation of Finland has a relatively high homicide rate, due to an equally high ownership rate. Likewise, the rather violent UK has a low homicide rate equal to Asia, which all share tough restrictions on firearms.
There doesn't seem to be much spillover into other crimes. Finland still has low crime (ignoring homicide) and low poverty. UK still has high violent crime and gangs on par with the US, but people just don't die from it.
The militia members have had a history of killing family members and high-profile mass-shootings, which have forced the country to enact very strict restrictions in recent years.
The high rate of crimes by militia members is just balanced by a much larger population that has no firearms at all, and has lots of access to money and social services.
No idea what you are trying to argue here. No states prohibit firearm ownership.
EDIT: If you mean nation-states, then it's pretty straightforward that more guns = higher homicide & suicide rate. Even the otherwise peaceful nation of Finland has a relatively high homicide rate, due to an equally high ownership rate. Likewise, the rather violent UK has a low homicide rate equal to Asia, which all share tough restrictions on firearms.
There doesn't seem to be much spillover into other crimes. Finland still has low crime (ignoring homicide) and low poverty. UK still has high violent crime and gangs on par with the US, but people just don't die from it.
Obviously, strong gun regulations give countries like the UK and Japan very low homicide rates... but you are still only talking about a difference of 5 homicides per 100,000 vs 1 homicide.
In other words, Americans have a 1-in-250 chance of being killed. Someone in England accepts closer to 1-in-1250. Cancer is still more likely to get you.
Obviously, strong gun regulations give countries like the UK and Japan very low homicide rates... but you are still only talking about a difference of 5 homicides per 100,000 vs 1 homicide.
In other words, Americans have a 1-in-250 chance of being killed. Someone in England accepts closer to 1-in-1250. Cancer is still more likely to get you.
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Guns just make it easier, guess British/Japanese citizens are just lazy.
Guns just make it easier, guess British/Japanese citizens are just lazy.
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What is this? Liths.............PROTECTOR OF THE MORONS!!!!!!
HALT THERE YOU DUMMY! Don't you know that gun could kill you?
Yeah...........that's the point asshole...........
What is this? Liths.............PROTECTOR OF THE MORONS!!!!!!
HALT THERE YOU DUMMY! Don't you know that gun could kill you?
Yeah...........that's the point asshole...........
But I wouldn't just blame the dummies and psychos... I mean, even Switzerland had a problem of militia members shooting their wives. Police have one of the highest homicide and suicide rates of any occupation. These guys all undergo extreme screening and evaluation, but still manage to be more dangerous than the general population.
I think things just escalate according to the tools available. Most homicides are against people you know, so you have a lot of arguments that ultimately turn lethal with firearms. Robberies and simple assaults are more likely to turn deadly. If you are getting your ass kicked, you might even decide to escalate a fight into a lethal situation.
But I wouldn't just blame the dummies and psychos... I mean, even Switzerland had a problem of militia members shooting their wives. Police have one of the highest homicide and suicide rates of any occupation. These guys all undergo extreme screening and evaluation, but still manage to be more dangerous than the general population.
I think things just escalate according to the tools available. Most homicides are against people you know, so you have a lot of arguments that ultimately turn lethal with firearms. Robberies and simple assaults are more likely to turn deadly. If you are getting your ass kicked, you might even decide to escalate a fight into a lethal situation.
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Go tell that to someone living in North Korea.
[quote user=EricManning]He's probably thinking more of the mass-murderers who tend to buy a stockpile of weapons and then go out on some shooting spree in a gun free zone.
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Go tell that to someone living in North Korea.