Viva Honduras! Viva La Revolucion!

That was just awful.

Awfully true....

^What is?  That the usual contempt for democracy in elite american circles is as alive and kicking as it was in the 1980s, when Reagan was spreading freedom in latin-america?

And to bring Jefferson and Orwell into it was just disgusting.  May I remind you Orwell fought in the Spanish Civil War against exactly this kind of military coup.

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So the democracy creates a constitution.....the president decides he doesn't like the term limits and decides he wants to ignore the term limit in the constitution...the supreme court says he cannot (per the constitution)....he ignores the supreme court and attempts to push it anyway. Soooooo, the supreme court tells the military to remove the leader because he is not upholding the DEMOCRATIC constitution. The Honduran supreme court is the one that ORDERED he be taken down....not the military. Who else is supposed to execute the court order? Yo mama?

^He wanted to hold a referendum.  That's not ignoring the constitution.  His term hadn't expired.  The Honduran military have overthrown a democratically elected leader and installed a dictatorship.

thisaintnews.com/viewlink/6140/The_Honduran_Coup_Another_US_Destabilization_Operation/

"At the beginning of June, Zelaya hosted the meeting of the Organization of American States (OAS) which provisionally removed the long-standing US-backed ban on Cuba. He was among the most strident advocates of allowing Cuba to join the organization, frustrating US efforts to maintain the political quarantine on the Castro regime.

Zelaya increasingly earned the enmity of dominant sections of the Honduran business elite, the military brass and the Church—the forces most closely allied to US imperialism. On June 12, a motorcade transporting Zelaya came under fire in Tegucigalpa. At least one bullet hit the President’s limousine, shattering the windshield.

Zelaya’s effort to hold a referendum on changing the constitution became the pretext for the coup. His opponents declared the referendum an attempt to override a constitutional limit on presidential tenure to one four-year term. The referendum proposed that a vote be held on November 29, the same day as national elections, to establish a constitutional convention.

Earlier this month the Honduran Supreme Court declared the referendum unconstitutional, and army chief General Romeo Vasquez refused to allow it to proceed. When Zelaya fired Vasquez, the Supreme Court overturned the action and reinstated the general. Last Thursday, Zelaya led a demonstration to seize referendum ballots that were being held by the military.

When Zelaya attempted on Sunday to hold the referendum, recast as a nonbinding opinion poll, the military broke into his home, arrested him and deported him to Costa Rica. The Honduran Congress, with the imprimatur of the Supreme Court, elected the parliamentary speaker, Roberto Micheletti, a member of Zelaya’s Liberal Party, as “interim president.”

The military imposed a de facto state of siege in Tegucigalpa, cutting off electricity, closing down pro-Zelaya media and reportedly arresting the foreign minister and other government officials. Cuba has charged that its ambassador to Honduras and the ambassadors from Nicaragua and Venezuela were beaten by troops carrying out the coup."

^ copy pastea, no points.

@Pablo

^"He wanted to hold a referendum.  That's not ignoring the constitution."

Yes it is when the court says no. So why even have a fucking court? Then you and all the other "good" socialists cry MILITARY COUP!!!! That is being disingenuous.......The court was calling this fucker out for ignoring it's constitution and trying to engage in his own coup by ignoring checks and balances and by attempting to create a populist uprising to change the constitution.  Not only that he has been accused of drug ties.....

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090630/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_honduras_drug_allegations

BY THE PEOPLE WHO OVERTHREW HIM!  Well there's a surprise!

Seriously though, I'm not here defending Zelaya's record, I honestly don't know enough about it.  He was a moderate reformer who instituted some reasonable policies.  The reason I find this coup (and indeed this article) so objectionable is I can't see any evidence that this revolution has any popular support, in fact I believe the opposite is the case.  How can the author can claim this as a victory for democracy when the people have been completely excluded. Ironic that you use the phrase populist uprising, showing the same contempt for democratic opinion as the author. Zelaya has six months left on his term, he is their democratically elected leader.  It's the people who are the victims here, as they so often are in this impoverished part of the world.

I really hope things don't take a turn for the worst on this but the pattern is pretty familiar.

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You are ignoring that the court is the one that ordered the military to remove him from office.....So it is not a military coup, but a court ordered removal of the president because he did not follow the courts orders. Like I said....if the president can just do what ever he wants....why have a court? But you know what a president is that can do whatever he wants....thats right....dictator.
My contempt for democratic opinion...please....you are the one, apparently, supporting no term limits for office....yeah....I am the one in contempt. All you are saying is that it is cool to vote away the very laws that protect you from putting your country into a dictatorship. The Honduran Constitution forbids it......period.

Honduras? I bet they don't even speak English.  Fuck em.

So what you're saying is, the court and military acted courageously to defend democracy from the people. 

Look, I don't agree with politicians seeking to extend term limits, but I see no justification for what has occurred.  Just to reiterate, it's the people that have been once again excluded.  And as ever it is they who will pay the price for all this.

Ha ha ! 

Does Supreme Court have a right to arrest president and send him into exile ?

No, I believe the proper procedure is impeachment, as you can see by international reaction that of course still recognizes him as president.

I am pretty fucking sure both were in breach of law and constitution, him and Supreme Court.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Zelaya

It's not only him too, several other officials were detained, some members of the government. Face it, it's power struggle that got dirty and ended up in this.

Also he didn't try to CHANGE constitution, it was illegal, he tried to dodge the whole illegal thing by democratic voting on a new constitution, replacing the old one. I bet Supreme Cort shat a brick after they heard the brilliant idea.