[quote user=InSOmnIaC][quote user=Immac1][quote user=InSOmnIaC]It's too bad Canada doesn't have the death penalty. [/quote]
Canada doesn't even come close to the number of shootings the USA has, so how exactly does the death penalty help again? .[/quote]
Ahhh I see the confusion. It's not about deterrence, IMO. It's about removing shitty people from the planet. [/quote]
I still don't see how this helps. Actions have consequences, and shitty laws make shitty countries with shitty people and shitty lifestyles. So far, countries which rely on the death penalty have a far less safer society than countries with no death penalty.
InSOmnIaC wrote:
Immac1 wrote:
InSOmnIaC wrote:
It's too bad Canada doesn't have the death penalty.
Canada doesn't even come close to the number of shootings the USA has, so how exactly does the death penalty help again? .
Ahhh I see the confusion. It's not about deterrence, IMO. It's about removing shitty people from the planet.
I still don't see how this helps. Actions have consequences, and shitty laws make shitty countries with shitty people and shitty lifestyles. So far, countries which rely on the death penalty have a far less safer society than countries with no death penalty.
[quote user=Immac1][quote user=InSOmnIaC][quote user=Immac1][quote user=InSOmnIaC]It's too bad Canada doesn't have the death penalty. [/quote]
Canada doesn't even come close to the number of shootings the USA has, so how exactly does the death penalty help again? .[/quote]
Ahhh I see the confusion. It's not about deterrence, IMO. It's about removing shitty people from the planet. [/quote]
I still don't see how this helps. Actions have consequences, and shitty laws make shitty countries with shitty people and shitty lifestyles. So far, countries which rely on the death penalty have a far less safer society than countries with no death penalty.[/quote]
Correlation =/= causation.
Immac1 wrote:
InSOmnIaC wrote:
Immac1 wrote:
InSOmnIaC wrote:
It's too bad Canada doesn't have the death penalty.
Canada doesn't even come close to the number of shootings the USA has, so how exactly does the death penalty help again? .
Ahhh I see the confusion. It's not about deterrence, IMO. It's about removing shitty people from the planet.
I still don't see how this helps. Actions have consequences, and shitty laws make shitty countries with shitty people and shitty lifestyles. So far, countries which rely on the death penalty have a far less safer society than countries with no death penalty.
[quote user=deokanon][quote user=InSOmnIaC][quote user=Immac1]Yeah, well, in this case it is.[/quote]
Proof? Source? Research?
[/quote]
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates Of course feel free to be skeptical.[/quote]
See, that isn't really the case. New Hampshire has the lowest murder rate per capita, but has the death penalty. Alaska, which is #6 per capita in murder has never had the death penalty. It is my belief that the deterrence factor is not a factor at all. It really is more of a moral and ethics issue than any numbers or "science".
Does the State have the right to end someone's life? Personally, I would say no. Even though there are certain monsters out there that would maybe be the exception. In general though, in the U.S., the use of the death penalty has been in severe decline in the past few decades. Even in States that still have it.
See, that isn't really the case. New Hampshire has the lowest murder rate per capita, but has the death penalty. Alaska, which is #6 per capita in murder has never had the death penalty. It is my belief that the deterrence factor is not a factor at all. It really is more of a moral and ethics issue than any numbers or "science".
Does the State have the right to end someone's life? Personally, I would say no. Even though there are certain monsters out there that would maybe be the exception. In general though, in the U.S., the use of the death penalty has been in severe decline in the past few decades. Even in States that still have it.
[quote user=Immac1][quote user=InSOmnIaC][quote user=Immac1][quote user=InSOmnIaC]It's too bad Canada doesn't have the death penalty. [/quote]
Canada doesn't even come close to the number of shootings the USA has, so how exactly does the death penalty help again? .[/quote]
Ahhh I see the confusion. It's not about deterrence, IMO. It's about removing shitty people from the planet. [/quote]
I still don't see how this helps. Actions have consequences, and shitty laws make shitty countries with shitty people and shitty lifestyles. So far, countries which rely on the death penalty have a far less safer society than countries with no death penalty.[/quote]
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
Immac1 wrote:
InSOmnIaC wrote:
Immac1 wrote:
InSOmnIaC wrote:
It's too bad Canada doesn't have the death penalty.
Canada doesn't even come close to the number of shootings the USA has, so how exactly does the death penalty help again? .
Ahhh I see the confusion. It's not about deterrence, IMO. It's about removing shitty people from the planet.
I still don't see how this helps. Actions have consequences, and shitty laws make shitty countries with shitty people and shitty lifestyles. So far, countries which rely on the death penalty have a far less safer society than countries with no death penalty.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
How so? just because you got a few outraged folks bellyaching. Doesn't mean either country has repealed their policies on the death penalty. Wake me when both countries stop their executions. Then, I will concede. Japan and China are pretty safe as far as countries go. Not unless you got something that says otherwise.
How so? just because you got a few outraged folks bellyaching. Doesn't mean either country has repealed their policies on the death penalty. Wake me when both countries stop their executions. Then, I will concede. Japan and China are pretty safe as far as countries go. Not unless you got something that says otherwise.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.[/quote]
Pro-life, huh?
cadpig wrote:
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
See, that isn't really the case. New Hampshire has the lowest murder rate per capita, but has the death penalty. Alaska, which is #6 per capita in murder has never had the death penalty. It is my belief that the deterrence factor is not a factor at all. It really is more of a moral and ethics issue than any numbers or "science".
Does the State have the right to end someone's life? Personally, I would say no. Even though there are certain monsters out there that would maybe be the exception. In general though, in the U.S., the use of the death penalty has been in severe decline in the past few decades. Even in States that still have it.[/quote]
I would agree it's more of a moral/ethics issue rather than deterrence. I would think by now most people don't think of it as a deterrence anymore. Just justifiable homicide or some such. I was kinda surprised looking at this map that Cali has the death penalty. Always thought they didn't.
ShanusMaximus wrote:
See, that isn't really the case. New Hampshire has the lowest murder rate per capita, but has the death penalty. Alaska, which is #6 per capita in murder has never had the death penalty. It is my belief that the deterrence factor is not a factor at all. It really is more of a moral and ethics issue than any numbers or "science".
Does the State have the right to end someone's life? Personally, I would say no. Even though there are certain monsters out there that would maybe be the exception. In general though, in the U.S., the use of the death penalty has been in severe decline in the past few decades. Even in States that still have it.
I would agree it's more of a moral/ethics issue rather than deterrence. I would think by now most people don't think of it as a deterrence anymore. Just justifiable homicide or some such. I was kinda surprised looking at this map that Cali has the death penalty. Always thought they didn't.
See, that isn't really the case. New Hampshire has the lowest murder rate per capita, but has the death penalty. Alaska, which is #6 per capita in murder has never had the death penalty. It is my belief that the deterrence factor is not a factor at all. It really is more of a moral and ethics issue than any numbers or "science".
Does the State have the right to end someone's life? Personally, I would say no. Even though there are certain monsters out there that would maybe be the exception. In general though, in the U.S., the use of the death penalty has been in severe decline in the past few decades. Even in States that still have it.[/quote]
I would agree it's more of a moral/ethics issue rather than deterrence. I would think by now most people don't think of it as a deterrence anymore. Just justifiable homicide or some such. I was kinda surprised looking at this map that Cali has the death penalty. Always thought they didn't. [/quote]
I'm surprised New Mexico doesn't have the death penalty. I always thought they were a "shoot on site and bury you in the desert" kinda state.
HomeBrew wrote:
ShanusMaximus wrote:
See, that isn't really the case. New Hampshire has the lowest murder rate per capita, but has the death penalty. Alaska, which is #6 per capita in murder has never had the death penalty. It is my belief that the deterrence factor is not a factor at all. It really is more of a moral and ethics issue than any numbers or "science".
Does the State have the right to end someone's life? Personally, I would say no. Even though there are certain monsters out there that would maybe be the exception. In general though, in the U.S., the use of the death penalty has been in severe decline in the past few decades. Even in States that still have it.
I would agree it's more of a moral/ethics issue rather than deterrence. I would think by now most people don't think of it as a deterrence anymore. Just justifiable homicide or some such. I was kinda surprised looking at this map that Cali has the death penalty. Always thought they didn't.
I'm surprised New Mexico doesn't have the death penalty. I always thought they were a "shoot on site and bury you in the desert" kinda state.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.[/quote]
Pro-life, huh?[/quote]
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.
HomeBrew wrote:
cadpig wrote:
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
Pro-life, huh?
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.[/quote]
Pro-life, huh?[/quote]
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.[/quote]
C'mon, seriously? I'm pretty sure you've argued pro-life around here. Just wondered how you can be for the death penalty. Life is life.
cadpig wrote:
HomeBrew wrote:
cadpig wrote:
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
Pro-life, huh?
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.
C'mon, seriously? I'm pretty sure you've argued pro-life around here. Just wondered how you can be for the death penalty. Life is life.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.[/quote]
Pro-life, huh?[/quote]
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.[/quote]
C'mon, seriously? I'm pretty sure you've argued pro-life around here. Just wondered how you can be for the death penalty. Life is life.[/quote]
Cad outs himself as a hypocrite on a daily basis. I don't think he means to, it's just he gets spoonfed something on the news at 9 AM and comes here to barf it back up like he's saying something we all haven't heard before. But he's also too stupid to realize he's barfing information up that almost always contradicts shit that kid has said before.
You can't expect someone hooked up to the republican media's IV Drip to actually have a coherent train of thought, could you? The republicans are so over the board anyone who blindly follows them will have very paralleling arguments that may as well be posited by a drunken wallaby.
HomeBrew wrote:
cadpig wrote:
HomeBrew wrote:
cadpig wrote:
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
Pro-life, huh?
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.
C'mon, seriously? I'm pretty sure you've argued pro-life around here. Just wondered how you can be for the death penalty. Life is life.
Cad outs himself as a hypocrite on a daily basis. I don't think he means to, it's just he gets spoonfed something on the news at 9 AM and comes here to barf it back up like he's saying something we all haven't heard before. But he's also too stupid to realize he's barfing information up that almost always contradicts shit that kid has said before.
You can't expect someone hooked up to the republican media's IV Drip to actually have a coherent train of thought, could you? The republicans are so over the board anyone who blindly follows them will have very paralleling arguments that may as well be posited by a drunken wallaby.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.[/quote]
Pro-life, huh?[/quote]
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.[/quote]
Fuuuuck, knowing the fact that Trump is hiring pro-life judges, this comment feels like a "screw you lefties you lost retards".
cadpig wrote:
HomeBrew wrote:
cadpig wrote:
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
Pro-life, huh?
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.
Fuuuuck, knowing the fact that Trump is hiring pro-life judges, this comment feels like a "screw you lefties you lost retards".
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.[/quote]
Pro-life, huh?[/quote]
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.[/quote]
C'mon, seriously? I'm pretty sure you've argued pro-life around here. Just wondered how you can be for the death penalty. Life is life.[/quote]
Cad outs himself as a hypocrite on a daily basis. I don't think he means to, it's just he gets spoonfed something on the news at 9 AM and comes here to barf it back up like he's saying something we all haven't heard before. But he's also too stupid to realize he's barfing information up that almost always contradicts shit that kid has said before.
You can't expect someone hooked up to the republican media's IV Drip to actually have a coherent train of thought, could you? The republicans are so over the board anyone who blindly follows them will have very paralleling arguments that may as well be posited by a drunken wallaby.[/quote]
I don't honestly remember ever arguing for pro-life. If you find a post when i did, i will own up to it. I would never force a woman to bear an unwanted child,or go thru an unwanted pregnancy . I really don't even see how you could even equate the death penalty with the abortion issue. I don't see the moral equivalence of an elective medical procedure and the state killing a human monster.
proofinlife wrote:
HomeBrew wrote:
cadpig wrote:
HomeBrew wrote:
cadpig wrote:
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
Pro-life, huh?
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.
C'mon, seriously? I'm pretty sure you've argued pro-life around here. Just wondered how you can be for the death penalty. Life is life.
Cad outs himself as a hypocrite on a daily basis. I don't think he means to, it's just he gets spoonfed something on the news at 9 AM and comes here to barf it back up like he's saying something we all haven't heard before. But he's also too stupid to realize he's barfing information up that almost always contradicts shit that kid has said before.
You can't expect someone hooked up to the republican media's IV Drip to actually have a coherent train of thought, could you? The republicans are so over the board anyone who blindly follows them will have very paralleling arguments that may as well be posited by a drunken wallaby.
I don't honestly remember ever arguing for pro-life. If you find a post when i did, i will own up to it. I would never force a woman to bear an unwanted child,or go thru an unwanted pregnancy . I really don't even see how you could even equate the death penalty with the abortion issue. I don't see the moral equivalence of an elective medical procedure and the state killing a human monster.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.[/quote]
Pro-life, huh?[/quote]
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.[/quote]
C'mon, seriously? I'm pretty sure you've argued pro-life around here. Just wondered how you can be for the death penalty. Life is life.[/quote]
Cad outs himself as a hypocrite on a daily basis. I don't think he means to, it's just he gets spoonfed something on the news at 9 AM and comes here to barf it back up like he's saying something we all haven't heard before. But he's also too stupid to realize he's barfing information up that almost always contradicts shit that kid has said before.
You can't expect someone hooked up to the republican media's IV Drip to actually have a coherent train of thought, could you? The republicans are so over the board anyone who blindly follows them will have very paralleling arguments that may as well be posited by a drunken wallaby.[/quote]
I don't honestly remember ever arguing for pro-life. If you find a post when i did, i will own up to it. [/quote]
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
Pro-life, huh?
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.
C'mon, seriously? I'm pretty sure you've argued pro-life around here. Just wondered how you can be for the death penalty. Life is life.
Cad outs himself as a hypocrite on a daily basis. I don't think he means to, it's just he gets spoonfed something on the news at 9 AM and comes here to barf it back up like he's saying something we all haven't heard before. But he's also too stupid to realize he's barfing information up that almost always contradicts shit that kid has said before.
You can't expect someone hooked up to the republican media's IV Drip to actually have a coherent train of thought, could you? The republicans are so over the board anyone who blindly follows them will have very paralleling arguments that may as well be posited by a drunken wallaby.
I don't honestly remember ever arguing for pro-life. If you find a post when i did, i will own up to it.
Wow, i guess i own it then..i don't remember posting that. Honest..Damn it! If i had a raise and a bigger more competent staff. This little incident could have been avoided. My inconsistency will be noted in the report and filed for future reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMPFQo5V-lA
Wow, i guess i own it then..i don't remember posting that. Honest..Damn it! If i had a raise and a bigger more competent staff. This little incident could have been avoided. My inconsistency will be noted in the report and filed for future reference.
I don't honestly remember ever arguing for pro-life. If you find a post when i did, i will own up to it. I would never force a woman to bear an unwanted child,or go thru an unwanted pregnancy . I really don't even see how you could even equate the death penalty with the abortion issue. I don't see the moral equivalence of an elective medical procedure and the state killing a human monster.[/quote]
Hmm. If you didn't then I apologize. I'm not that argumentative that I'm gonna go hunt down something that you may or may not have said. So I guess my stance is pretty clear...life is life. That's how I equate abortion/death penalty. Humans are humans. Killing humans is bad. And before you (or anyone else) asks...no I don't have a solution to criminals so horrible that they deserve to die. Or unwanted babies either.
cadpig wrote:
I don't honestly remember ever arguing for pro-life. If you find a post when i did, i will own up to it. I would never force a woman to bear an unwanted child,or go thru an unwanted pregnancy . I really don't even see how you could even equate the death penalty with the abortion issue. I don't see the moral equivalence of an elective medical procedure and the state killing a human monster.
Hmm. If you didn't then I apologize. I'm not that argumentative that I'm gonna go hunt down something that you may or may not have said. So I guess my stance is pretty clear...life is life. That's how I equate abortion/death penalty. Humans are humans. Killing humans is bad. And before you (or anyone else) asks...no I don't have a solution to criminals so horrible that they deserve to die. Or unwanted babies either.
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Now which one of them is white supremacist and which one is islamic extremist, that's the question.
Now which one of them is white supremacist and which one is islamic extremist, that's the question.
Careful what you wish for, you have the same profile as the shooter (islamophic, misogynist & pro white nationalist rofl).
Careful what you wish for, you have the same profile as the shooter (islamophic, misogynist & pro white nationalist rofl).
Nah. I'm an anti-theist libertarian egalitarian who believes that with equal rights comes equal responsibility.
Nah. I'm an anti-theist libertarian egalitarian who believes that with equal rights comes equal responsibility.
Canada doesn't even come close to the number of shootings the USA has, so how exactly does the death penalty help again?
Also:
- USA: shooter is killed after a fierce gun battle with police.
- Canada: shooter calls police, "I'm sorry".
Canada doesn't even come close to the number of shootings the USA has, so how exactly does the death penalty help again?
Also:
- USA: shooter is killed after a fierce gun battle with police.
- Canada: shooter calls police, "I'm sorry".
Canada doesn't even come close to the number of shootings the USA has, so how exactly does the death penalty help again?
.[/quote]
Ahhh I see the confusion. It's not about deterrence, IMO. It's about removing shitty people from the planet.
Canada doesn't even come close to the number of shootings the USA has, so how exactly does the death penalty help again?
.
Ahhh I see the confusion. It's not about deterrence, IMO. It's about removing shitty people from the planet.
Well, canadian mini-Breivik it is then.
Well, canadian mini-Breivik it is then.
Canada doesn't even come close to the number of shootings the USA has, so how exactly does the death penalty help again?
.[/quote]
Ahhh I see the confusion. It's not about deterrence, IMO. It's about removing shitty people from the planet. [/quote]
I still don't see how this helps. Actions have consequences, and shitty laws make shitty countries with shitty people and shitty lifestyles. So far, countries which rely on the death penalty have a far less safer society than countries with no death penalty.
Canada doesn't even come close to the number of shootings the USA has, so how exactly does the death penalty help again?
.
Ahhh I see the confusion. It's not about deterrence, IMO. It's about removing shitty people from the planet.
I still don't see how this helps. Actions have consequences, and shitty laws make shitty countries with shitty people and shitty lifestyles. So far, countries which rely on the death penalty have a far less safer society than countries with no death penalty.
Canada doesn't even come close to the number of shootings the USA has, so how exactly does the death penalty help again?
.[/quote]
Ahhh I see the confusion. It's not about deterrence, IMO. It's about removing shitty people from the planet. [/quote]
I still don't see how this helps. Actions have consequences, and shitty laws make shitty countries with shitty people and shitty lifestyles. So far, countries which rely on the death penalty have a far less safer society than countries with no death penalty.[/quote]
Correlation =/= causation.
Canada doesn't even come close to the number of shootings the USA has, so how exactly does the death penalty help again?
.
Ahhh I see the confusion. It's not about deterrence, IMO. It's about removing shitty people from the planet.
I still don't see how this helps. Actions have consequences, and shitty laws make shitty countries with shitty people and shitty lifestyles. So far, countries which rely on the death penalty have a far less safer society than countries with no death penalty.
Correlation =/= causation.
Proof? Source? Research?
Proof? Source? Research?
Proof? Source? Research?
[/quote]
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates
Of course feel free to be skeptical.
Proof? Source? Research?
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates
Of course feel free to be skeptical.
Proof? Source? Research?
[/quote]
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates
Of course feel free to be skeptical.[/quote]
See, that isn't really the case. New Hampshire has the lowest murder rate per capita, but has the death penalty. Alaska, which is #6 per capita in murder has never had the death penalty. It is my belief that the deterrence factor is not a factor at all. It really is more of a moral and ethics issue than any numbers or "science".
Does the State have the right to end someone's life? Personally, I would say no. Even though there are certain monsters out there that would maybe be the exception. In general though, in the U.S., the use of the death penalty has been in severe decline in the past few decades. Even in States that still have it.
Proof? Source? Research?
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates
Of course feel free to be skeptical.
See, that isn't really the case. New Hampshire has the lowest murder rate per capita, but has the death penalty. Alaska, which is #6 per capita in murder has never had the death penalty. It is my belief that the deterrence factor is not a factor at all. It really is more of a moral and ethics issue than any numbers or "science".
Does the State have the right to end someone's life? Personally, I would say no. Even though there are certain monsters out there that would maybe be the exception. In general though, in the U.S., the use of the death penalty has been in severe decline in the past few decades. Even in States that still have it.
Canada doesn't even come close to the number of shootings the USA has, so how exactly does the death penalty help again?
.[/quote]
Ahhh I see the confusion. It's not about deterrence, IMO. It's about removing shitty people from the planet. [/quote]
I still don't see how this helps. Actions have consequences, and shitty laws make shitty countries with shitty people and shitty lifestyles. So far, countries which rely on the death penalty have a far less safer society than countries with no death penalty.[/quote]
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
Canada doesn't even come close to the number of shootings the USA has, so how exactly does the death penalty help again?
.
Ahhh I see the confusion. It's not about deterrence, IMO. It's about removing shitty people from the planet.
I still don't see how this helps. Actions have consequences, and shitty laws make shitty countries with shitty people and shitty lifestyles. So far, countries which rely on the death penalty have a far less safer society than countries with no death penalty.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=outcry+china+death+penalty&t=fpas&ia=web
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=japan+death+penalty+protest&t=fpas&ia=web
Too easy.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=outcry+china+death+penalty&t=fpas&ia=web
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=japan+death+penalty+protest&t=fpas&ia=web
Too easy.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=outcry+china+death+penalty&t=fpas&ia=web
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=japan+death+penalty+protest&t=fpas&ia=web
Too easy.[/quote]
How so?
just because you got a few outraged folks bellyaching. Doesn't mean either country has repealed their policies on the death penalty. Wake me when both countries stop their executions. Then, I will concede. Japan and China are pretty safe as far as countries go. Not unless you got something that says otherwise.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=outcry+china+death+penalty&t=fpas&ia=web
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=japan+death+penalty+protest&t=fpas&ia=web
Too easy.
How so?
just because you got a few outraged folks bellyaching. Doesn't mean either country has repealed their policies on the death penalty. Wake me when both countries stop their executions. Then, I will concede. Japan and China are pretty safe as far as countries go. Not unless you got something that says otherwise.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.[/quote]
Pro-life, huh?
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
Pro-life, huh?
See, that isn't really the case. New Hampshire has the lowest murder rate per capita, but has the death penalty. Alaska, which is #6 per capita in murder has never had the death penalty. It is my belief that the deterrence factor is not a factor at all. It really is more of a moral and ethics issue than any numbers or "science".
Does the State have the right to end someone's life? Personally, I would say no. Even though there are certain monsters out there that would maybe be the exception. In general though, in the U.S., the use of the death penalty has been in severe decline in the past few decades. Even in States that still have it.[/quote]
I would agree it's more of a moral/ethics issue rather than deterrence. I would think by now most people don't think of it as a deterrence anymore. Just justifiable homicide or some such. I was kinda surprised looking at this map that Cali has the death penalty. Always thought they didn't.
See, that isn't really the case. New Hampshire has the lowest murder rate per capita, but has the death penalty. Alaska, which is #6 per capita in murder has never had the death penalty. It is my belief that the deterrence factor is not a factor at all. It really is more of a moral and ethics issue than any numbers or "science".
Does the State have the right to end someone's life? Personally, I would say no. Even though there are certain monsters out there that would maybe be the exception. In general though, in the U.S., the use of the death penalty has been in severe decline in the past few decades. Even in States that still have it.
I would agree it's more of a moral/ethics issue rather than deterrence. I would think by now most people don't think of it as a deterrence anymore. Just justifiable homicide or some such. I was kinda surprised looking at this map that Cali has the death penalty. Always thought they didn't.
See, that isn't really the case. New Hampshire has the lowest murder rate per capita, but has the death penalty. Alaska, which is #6 per capita in murder has never had the death penalty. It is my belief that the deterrence factor is not a factor at all. It really is more of a moral and ethics issue than any numbers or "science".
Does the State have the right to end someone's life? Personally, I would say no. Even though there are certain monsters out there that would maybe be the exception. In general though, in the U.S., the use of the death penalty has been in severe decline in the past few decades. Even in States that still have it.[/quote]
I would agree it's more of a moral/ethics issue rather than deterrence. I would think by now most people don't think of it as a deterrence anymore. Just justifiable homicide or some such. I was kinda surprised looking at this map that Cali has the death penalty. Always thought they didn't.
I'm surprised New Mexico doesn't have the death penalty. I always thought they were a "shoot on site and bury you in the desert" kinda state.
See, that isn't really the case. New Hampshire has the lowest murder rate per capita, but has the death penalty. Alaska, which is #6 per capita in murder has never had the death penalty. It is my belief that the deterrence factor is not a factor at all. It really is more of a moral and ethics issue than any numbers or "science".
Does the State have the right to end someone's life? Personally, I would say no. Even though there are certain monsters out there that would maybe be the exception. In general though, in the U.S., the use of the death penalty has been in severe decline in the past few decades. Even in States that still have it.
I would agree it's more of a moral/ethics issue rather than deterrence. I would think by now most people don't think of it as a deterrence anymore. Just justifiable homicide or some such. I was kinda surprised looking at this map that Cali has the death penalty. Always thought they didn't.
I'm surprised New Mexico doesn't have the death penalty. I always thought they were a "shoot on site and bury you in the desert" kinda state.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.[/quote]
Pro-life, huh?[/quote]
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
Pro-life, huh?
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.[/quote]
Pro-life, huh?[/quote]
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.[/quote]
C'mon, seriously? I'm pretty sure you've argued pro-life around here. Just wondered how you can be for the death penalty. Life is life.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
Pro-life, huh?
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.
C'mon, seriously? I'm pretty sure you've argued pro-life around here. Just wondered how you can be for the death penalty. Life is life.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.[/quote]
Pro-life, huh?[/quote]
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.[/quote]
C'mon, seriously? I'm pretty sure you've argued pro-life around here. Just wondered how you can be for the death penalty. Life is life.[/quote]
Cad outs himself as a hypocrite on a daily basis. I don't think he means to, it's just he gets spoonfed something on the news at 9 AM and comes here to barf it back up like he's saying something we all haven't heard before. But he's also too stupid to realize he's barfing information up that almost always contradicts shit that kid has said before.
You can't expect someone hooked up to the republican media's IV Drip to actually have a coherent train of thought, could you? The republicans are so over the board anyone who blindly follows them will have very paralleling arguments that may as well be posited by a drunken wallaby.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
Pro-life, huh?
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.
C'mon, seriously? I'm pretty sure you've argued pro-life around here. Just wondered how you can be for the death penalty. Life is life.
Cad outs himself as a hypocrite on a daily basis. I don't think he means to, it's just he gets spoonfed something on the news at 9 AM and comes here to barf it back up like he's saying something we all haven't heard before. But he's also too stupid to realize he's barfing information up that almost always contradicts shit that kid has said before.
You can't expect someone hooked up to the republican media's IV Drip to actually have a coherent train of thought, could you? The republicans are so over the board anyone who blindly follows them will have very paralleling arguments that may as well be posited by a drunken wallaby.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.[/quote]
Pro-life, huh?[/quote]
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.[/quote]
Fuuuuck, knowing the fact that Trump is hiring pro-life judges, this comment feels like a "screw you lefties you lost retards".
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
Pro-life, huh?
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.
Fuuuuck, knowing the fact that Trump is hiring pro-life judges, this comment feels like a "screw you lefties you lost retards".
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.[/quote]
Pro-life, huh?[/quote]
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.[/quote]
C'mon, seriously? I'm pretty sure you've argued pro-life around here. Just wondered how you can be for the death penalty. Life is life.[/quote]
Cad outs himself as a hypocrite on a daily basis. I don't think he means to, it's just he gets spoonfed something on the news at 9 AM and comes here to barf it back up like he's saying something we all haven't heard before. But he's also too stupid to realize he's barfing information up that almost always contradicts shit that kid has said before.
You can't expect someone hooked up to the republican media's IV Drip to actually have a coherent train of thought, could you? The republicans are so over the board anyone who blindly follows them will have very paralleling arguments that may as well be posited by a drunken wallaby.[/quote]
I don't honestly remember ever arguing for pro-life. If you find a post when i did, i will own up to it. I would never force a woman to bear an unwanted child,or go thru an unwanted pregnancy . I really don't even see how you could even equate the death penalty with the abortion issue. I don't see the moral equivalence of an elective medical procedure and the state killing a human monster.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
Pro-life, huh?
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.
C'mon, seriously? I'm pretty sure you've argued pro-life around here. Just wondered how you can be for the death penalty. Life is life.
Cad outs himself as a hypocrite on a daily basis. I don't think he means to, it's just he gets spoonfed something on the news at 9 AM and comes here to barf it back up like he's saying something we all haven't heard before. But he's also too stupid to realize he's barfing information up that almost always contradicts shit that kid has said before.
You can't expect someone hooked up to the republican media's IV Drip to actually have a coherent train of thought, could you? The republicans are so over the board anyone who blindly follows them will have very paralleling arguments that may as well be posited by a drunken wallaby.
I don't honestly remember ever arguing for pro-life. If you find a post when i did, i will own up to it. I would never force a woman to bear an unwanted child,or go thru an unwanted pregnancy . I really don't even see how you could even equate the death penalty with the abortion issue. I don't see the moral equivalence of an elective medical procedure and the state killing a human monster.
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.[/quote]
Pro-life, huh?[/quote]
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.[/quote]
C'mon, seriously? I'm pretty sure you've argued pro-life around here. Just wondered how you can be for the death penalty. Life is life.[/quote]
Cad outs himself as a hypocrite on a daily basis. I don't think he means to, it's just he gets spoonfed something on the news at 9 AM and comes here to barf it back up like he's saying something we all haven't heard before. But he's also too stupid to realize he's barfing information up that almost always contradicts shit that kid has said before.
You can't expect someone hooked up to the republican media's IV Drip to actually have a coherent train of thought, could you? The republicans are so over the board anyone who blindly follows them will have very paralleling arguments that may as well be posited by a drunken wallaby.[/quote]
I don't honestly remember ever arguing for pro-life. If you find a post when i did, i will own up to it. [/quote]
[quote user=cadpig"]Oh really, i would rather have the masses pray to end abortion.. [/quote]
Japan and China are pretty safe with their death penalty. You guys never talk about them when you anti-death penalty proponents go off on your rants.. No, it's about removing predators from our streets and closure for the victim's family. l believe that there are some crimes that are so heinous. That you forfeit your life. When you been found guilty of them.
Pro-life, huh?
More than happy to let the courts decide that issue.
C'mon, seriously? I'm pretty sure you've argued pro-life around here. Just wondered how you can be for the death penalty. Life is life.
Cad outs himself as a hypocrite on a daily basis. I don't think he means to, it's just he gets spoonfed something on the news at 9 AM and comes here to barf it back up like he's saying something we all haven't heard before. But he's also too stupid to realize he's barfing information up that almost always contradicts shit that kid has said before.
You can't expect someone hooked up to the republican media's IV Drip to actually have a coherent train of thought, could you? The republicans are so over the board anyone who blindly follows them will have very paralleling arguments that may as well be posited by a drunken wallaby.
I don't honestly remember ever arguing for pro-life. If you find a post when i did, i will own up to it.
My inconsistency will be noted in the report and filed for future reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMPFQo5V-lA
My inconsistency will be noted in the report and filed for future reference.
I don't honestly remember ever arguing for pro-life. If you find a post when i did, i will own up to it. I would never force a woman to bear an unwanted child,or go thru an unwanted pregnancy . I really don't even see how you could even equate the death penalty with the abortion issue. I don't see the moral equivalence of an elective medical procedure and the state killing a human monster.[/quote]
Hmm. If you didn't then I apologize. I'm not that argumentative that I'm gonna go hunt down something that you may or may not have said. So I guess my stance is pretty clear...life is life. That's how I equate abortion/death penalty. Humans are humans. Killing humans is bad. And before you (or anyone else) asks...no I don't have a solution to criminals so horrible that they deserve to die. Or unwanted babies either.
I don't honestly remember ever arguing for pro-life. If you find a post when i did, i will own up to it. I would never force a woman to bear an unwanted child,or go thru an unwanted pregnancy . I really don't even see how you could even equate the death penalty with the abortion issue. I don't see the moral equivalence of an elective medical procedure and the state killing a human monster.
Hmm. If you didn't then I apologize. I'm not that argumentative that I'm gonna go hunt down something that you may or may not have said. So I guess my stance is pretty clear...life is life. That's how I equate abortion/death penalty. Humans are humans. Killing humans is bad. And before you (or anyone else) asks...no I don't have a solution to criminals so horrible that they deserve to die. Or unwanted babies either.