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@rokkus @shanusSo England has done nothing good ever huh?Did I say that? No. Allow me to clarify. I am white, middle class and live in the 4th richest country in the world under conditions that, when compared with about 90% of the world should be considered obscene luxury. The wealth of this nation is the legacy of the brutality of the British Empire. It is defended today under the umbrella of protection of the American Empire. The progress that has been made in pursuit of democratic freedoms for the people of this island are the legacy of many great martyrs, of whom we should all be proud, no matter what our nationality is. As we should be proud of all of those who stand up against violence and repression all over the world. The modern nation state system serves only to protect it's priveleged classes from the majority, and to keep us divided and alienated from what should be our common goals as a species. That I feel, is nothing to be proud of.
Abu Hamza lost both his hands and the use of his left eye, allegedly as a result of wounds sustained in Afghanistan during a de-mining project around 1993. He now uses a distinctive hook as his right hand. He claims to have lost his hands and eye as the result of helping clear land mines in Afghanistan left behind by the Soviet Union. On a special edition of the BBC's Newsnight program broadcast 16 November 2006 a Moroccan-French spy known by the pseudonymOmar Nasiri claimed that he was told by one of his teachers in Afghanistan that he [the teacher] was present when Abu Hamza lost his hands in a nitroglycerin accident, in an al-Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan.[citation needed (From Wikipedia)
a little fact mixed with pure liberal bollocks results in total crap like what you wasted your time typing... why are you making excuses for the dwindlers and no-gooders in this society? you are not one of them and they certainly don't need defending. if they could be less bothered about when their next dole-cheque is due and what pair of kappa jogging bottoms they're going to twok next and more concerned about setting an example to their kids to do well in school and try to achieve someting then i may agree with you but they're not!! these people want to sit on their arses and claim benefits, not because the government wants them there but because they want an easy life! if you have the drive to go out and do something then you have to go out and do it. never before has there been so much opportunity to make something of yourself as there is right now. even in a recession where the playing field is being levelled... you have a good idea, you go out and do something about it. simple. there's plenty of people there to help you and all you need to start is either a voice and a little drive. sheeit, you don't even have to do that, just log on the internet and send an email. people are isolating themselves... bring back national service and you'll find everything improves... less crime, more employment and more national pride! be liberal and dish out benefits and you're left with scum-central like what we have here! as for education, ok the exams may be getting easier but that goes for all schools. state-schools don't sit a seperate syllabus to public schools. the problem lies with the parents here, in the state schools you just have the chav-culture parents sitting back and allowing their kids to skive. in the public schools the children would get whipped for wasting 'daddy's' money! there's a hella lot of motivation behind a whip. maybe we should just whip truants til they become of an age to leave school? end of the day, if parents want their kids to do well they'll get behind them and help them. the government are actively going out to punish parents who don't do this by fining or giving community service hours to parents who allow their kids to pay truant. that doesn't sound like an attempt to create a 'state-dependent underclass', this is your opinion backed with some hippy ball-sucking conspiracy blargh, stop it. 'deliberate government policy'... i want to see fact, not just a paper or article written by some opinionated liberal cock-jockey. just why would the government want to create a stste dependent underclass... if the people thrive there's more money to tax therefor more $$ for the government to waste on porno and fancy vacuum cleaners!
yes this has been a pretty right-wing government but they're not doing ti right! they're still bending over backwards to help everyone else but the english people feel right at home in our country. i'm not saying lets all be uber facists but a little thatcherism really wouldn't go amiss right now. we need some 'dick, with balls', to pull this country back on track. we don't need the excessive securtiy caameras or id cards, we need a harder line on personal issues... making people more accountable for their actions. this has been a stupid right-wing government being run by left-wing fops masquerading as right wingers... let's face it, they're only being this way because they had to bring themselves closer to the conservatives. every time a labour government has got into power it has managed to fuck up the country! they needed to move away from this trend. at heart they're all still liberal douchbags! why else would they fanny around with id cards and a surveilance culture rather than get down and dirty tackling crime hands-on. 'criminalising unpopular opinions'... did i? not sure what you mean here. i'm losing thread completely here and apoligise for going off topic but i will destroy you when i'm not meant to be working. might be in town at some point this weekend, beers should be had.
what's wrong with writing a long post, if it aint of interest don't read it. simple. that was for pablo anyway. that short enough for you nova? i hear you like short things, that way you don't feel insecure when you go take a piss.
@rokkus You're problem with liberalism is that you don't know what it is (the irony being that of course that in all your arguments you are actually defending economic liberalism). And since I'm not here to defend liberalism (because I don't consider myself a liberal) I'll say no more on the subject.
Now anyone with a teaspoon of cranial glop in the skull can see that all the problems we are discussing are a product of the last thirty years of political consensus. There is no Labour Party, there is no Conservative Party, there is no Liberal Party, there is only the Business Party, reprenting only the interests of Corporate Mercantilism. Their sole function is to ensure that the economic sphere remains depoliticised. This is not a conspiracy theory. This is a fact. It is called globilisation. As for solutions to these problems, you don't appear to have any outside of allude to some kind of fascist autocracy with yourself at the helm (which I know is what you'd really like ) So with that in mind, I present some of my proposals:
@rokkus You're problem with liberalism